Richard North was the dog that caught the bus when all of a sudden his open source project, Testcontainers, took off, and now has more than a million monthly downloads and developers using it at Netflix, Uber, Spotify, Google and other settings large and small. Doc Searls and Dan Lynch talk with Richard about how he caught the bus he ended up driving, how he set up Testcontainers.org, stood up Atomicjar.com as a running business backed by smart capital, and put learnings to use through a six-year journey that includes a worldwide pandemic that is changing development for everyone.
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