The Tech Guy Episode 1893 Transcript

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Leo Laporte / Mikah Sargent (00:01:02):
Why? Hey, Hey, how are you today? Leo Laporte here. The Tech Guy. It's time to do the Tech Guy show. What is that? Well, it's where Mikah Sergeant and I talk tech computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography, smartphones, smart watches, augmented reality, virtual reality. We brought Micah in because we needed a young person to explain TikTok. <Laugh> talking TikTok tech and, and the Snapchat. I know, you know, old folks have to explain to you Facebook, right? Yeah. What is the, yeah, what is that? Tell me about Facebook thing. Is that funny? How that's become now? Your parents' social network, parents, social media. Yeah. the young people seem to like Snapchat still. I thought Snapchat might get superseded, but TikTok is really the king mm-hmm <affirmative>. And I say that because my son who's, you know, roughly your age is all over the TikTok.

Leo Laporte / Mikah Sargent (00:01:57):
Yeah, yeah. All over the TikTok. So I guess that's the, the next big thing. I, you know, he <laugh>, he went over to visit a major talkers, $7 million house the other day. Whoa. And she sent me pictures of the guy's garage, which features eight or nine Jay Leno style, classic cars. And I said he didn't make all that a TikTok. He said, yes, he did. So how is it just advertisement? I guess TikTok is starting now finally to share ad revenue with the creators. They didn't do that before we live in a world. This is, this is what's interesting. First of all, times are tough. Right? We've got, we've got an imminent recession. We've got massive inflation. There's no more baby formula. Thank God. I, I stopped using that a while ago. Yeah. Yeah. There's wind myself off. Yeah. There's I mean, it's really, this is it's, you know, Bitcoin is under $30,000. Oh. And <laugh> NFTs are collapsing.

Leo Laporte / Mikah Sargent (00:03:02):
So we live in kind of economically hard times. Right. But there is power and the power these days is with the young people who won't work at bad jobs anymore. They just say, no, you know, you could pay me 7 25 an hour. I don't think so. And creators who now thanks to YouTube TikTok, places like that have, have a lot of juice. And and everybody, I think everybody under 25 wants to be creator. I asked my son, I said, don't, don't become famous. It's not, it's not good. It's not all it's cracked up to be famous. People go crazy. Just look at Johnny DPP and Amber herd, famous people. It's not Elon Musk. Just look, it's not good. He said, dad, in the future, everybody will be famous. I said, oh, okay. He said, my whole generation is gonna be famous. Oh, okay.

Mikah Sargent (00:03:53):
You know, my younger brother has, has that mentality. That's not

Leo Laporte (00:03:58):
When I was a kid, you know, everybody thought they were gonna be an NBA player or an NFL player, a baseball player, right? Yeah. That's that was the

Mikah Sargent (00:04:05):
Thing. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:04:05):
Sports. Yeah. I'm gonna be rich in sports now, Snapchat and TikTok and things like that. And, and the only fans, and you have

Mikah Sargent (00:04:12):
To think about the dopamine involvement there. If you do start to get those likes, you start to have that dopamine cycle. Oh, your hooks. What happens when you end up losing people after a while? Which works? Where do you find that? Dopamine?

Leo Laporte (00:04:23):
I know it's I know. Yeah. And you're and really, where do you find you can't go anywhere else? Nothing

Mikah Sargent (00:04:28):
Else will give that same kind of cycle. You

Leo Laporte (00:04:31):
Can get in a radio. Yeah, no, nevermind.

Mikah Sargent (00:04:33):

Leo Laporte (00:04:35):
Elon Musk on Friday in the morning early, he was up early. Elon got up early. That's what happens when you sleep on the manufacturing, the factory floor, it's hard to get a good night sleep. So he was up at 5:44 AM and tweets you, I, that, that Twitter deal, my IATA is temporarily on hold because of his concerns about fake accounts. Like he just learned about this. Twitter's been saying this for years, part of the problem here, and I think Elon's gonna run into a little trouble. Is there was no the zero, what they call due diligence. You know, when you buy something, whether it's a used automobile or a multi-billion dollar company, there is a period of time in which you do something called do du E diligence. You carefully examine the books, the revenue, you look at the potential problems. You try to assess whether the $44 billion you're offering to pay for a company's worth it. Elon didn't do any due diligence. He just said, and I think he liked it because of the marijuana. I'll pay 5 50, 4 20. Get it. <Laugh> What a knit with. I am so over. I, I hard, I hate to bring it up except it's like, well now what?

Mikah Sargent (00:05:56):
And there, there's no reason him saying it's on pause. What does that mean? Because he can't just do that based on the contract. He can't there. Like you have to follow through or you pay a billion dollars and that has its own set of, of requirements. All of the stuff that the contract suggests would says that he can't just say, oh, it's on hold. So <laugh> nobody even knows what he means when he says this thing.

Leo Laporte (00:06:18):
Some some financial expert in the wall street journal said, it's like, if, if you sign a contract to buy a car, you can't just say, yeah. And I, I don't no, nevermind. Can I have my money back? No. and as you point out there is what they call a a billion dollar walk away fee. If you decide not to do it, he's gotta pay a billion dollars. Both sides have that. But I think Twitter could literally say no, no, no, no, no. <Laugh> no, no, no, no, no. You said you were gonna have this money. We wanted now the, and, and by the way, Twitter's starting to do things. They just fired two of their big, yes, guys, the, the general manager

Mikah Sargent (00:06:59):
And head of product. And they did it while he was on mater or maternity,

Leo Laporte (00:07:03):
Maternity, maternity leave on leave. The guy had founded Periscope, which Twitter bought. He was in there. He was running. The product was out on mater, paternity leave. He's a daddy. And yeah, that's very unseemly. Yeah. That's unseemly.

Mikah Sargent (00:07:18):
And it, he had no idea based on his own

Leo Laporte (00:07:21):
Tweets. Oh yeah. He said, well, I guess now we shouldn't feel too. Sorry for him. He's probably got a little bit. He'll

Mikah Sargent (00:07:26):
Fine. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:07:27):
But still

Mikah Sargent (00:07:28):
It is an odd choice because the CEO said, Hey, I wanna, I'm, I'm planning on taking the team in a different direction. What is that direction?

Leo Laporte (00:07:36):
Well, Mr. Bosco tell me ELAU, TBY Elon's in trouble too. With these securities and exchange commission said, surprise, Hey, you didn't disclose when you were supposed to, that you had bought this big chunk of Twitter stock. You know, you're supposed to tell the world, he didn't, for one reason, didn't want the price to start going up and making it more expensive for him to buy the rest. That's illegal, illegal. But you know, who knows you could, what we, one thing we've learned in this world, you're rich enough. You're white enough. Doesn't matter exactly. Do anything you want, do anything you want? Well, what are they gonna do to Elon put him in jail? No, he's a richest man in the world. Well, he was <laugh> until he decided to buy Twitter. And the stock for Tesla went down 50%. Now that all of his, you know, richest men in the world, wealth comes from his huge Tesla holdings. So, and that also, by the way, it's not good for Tesla. Just, you know, just to bring this up. It's not, it's not it's he's, he's borrowing against his Tesla stock and you know, that's kind of, that's kind of problematic as well. Anyway, I'm sorry. I brought it up. No one cares, right? No one,

Mikah Sargent (00:08:48):
I just want him to go away.

Leo Laporte (00:08:49):
I just want him to go away. He's a troll. All right. We should talk about things that, that matter to people, not stuff that the people in the tech industry are all head up about

Mikah Sargent (00:09:01):
What matters to people.

Leo Laporte (00:09:02):
What does matter to people? Well, let me see what does matter to people I'm looking <laugh>

Mikah Sargent (00:09:08):
I know, right, right now,

Leo Laporte (00:09:09):
How about this one? The, in the, the United Kingdom jolly out.

Mikah Sargent (00:09:14):
Oh, I, that

Leo Laporte (00:09:15):
Royal mail has decided to start delivering mail by drone.

Mikah Sargent (00:09:22):
How often

Leo Laporte (00:09:23):
50 roots for rural deliveries? The aisles of silly off the coast of cone Cornwall, cuz it's silly probably instead of a fairy boat, they just fly a plane out there and drop it out the back, the Scottish islands of Shetland or Orne and the Hees test flights started last year. We have a friend of the show lives in sey. I don't see sey on this list, but I would imagine it's the same, same problem. The most recent tests held last month, the Royal mail was able to use a UAV. That's the technical name for these uninterruptable automatic vehicle? No, <laugh>

Mikah Sargent (00:10:06):
Unmanned aerial

Leo Laporte (00:10:07):
Unmanned area. Thank you. Very good. Impressive. they use a UAV deliver mail TOST which sounds like a beat box sound T but it's not it's Britain's most northerly inhabited island. They went from ting wall, airport on Shetlands, largest island, 50 miles. Each way the twin engine drone can carry a payload of up to a hundred kilograms of mail has a lot of mail, 220 pounds. If my math is correct and take two return flights every day, the Royal mail said the device has a wings span of 10 meters and can withstand difficult weather conditions with the help of its autopilot system. I, they didn't mention and I sure would like to know, do they just drop it or what?

Mikah Sargent (00:10:50):
Yeah. How does it touch to the ground?

Leo Laporte (00:10:52):
I don't think it goes to, I think it just flies over something. Throws the mail out the window

Mikah Sargent (00:10:58):
And keeps it going it shooted maybe.

Leo Laporte (00:11:00):
Yeah. There's yeah. Well maybe, I don't know. Maybe <laugh> gosh, all the stories in my rundown, I'm looking for all Elon Musk and Twitter. I'm so disappointed. I'm sorry.

Mikah Sargent (00:11:13):
From the UK. Ah, here it is. EU CS Sams scanning law could outlaw end to end,

Leo Laporte (00:11:18):
Oh, this is a big deal. So the EU and this is the kind of thing our government is absolutely considering. The idea is that we should hold people like WhatsApp and other messenger services accountable for child sexually exploitive material. CSAM is child sexual abuse material which means in order for them to, to be responsible for it, they'd have to look at every message mm-hmm <affirmative>. Now, right now there are a number of messenger systems. Google just announced their RCS is gonna be encrypted for groups as well as individuals telegram groups. If you choose, it could be private. Whatsapp is encrypted. Apple's own messages is encrypted. Right now those messages, you know, apple, none of these companies can see what they are. If this law becomes the law of the land, they will have to be able to look at every message. So what you just said, no more encryption. Exactly. Right now. The reason that they honestly, I think conspiracy theory, you ready? Oh,

Mikah Sargent (00:12:25):

Leo Laporte (00:12:25):
I'm ready. You ready? I don't think they actually are all that worried about CSAM, but it's hard when you say, look, we just want to fight child sexual abuse to say, oh, well, no everybody's who would say right exactly before that, but that's not really, in my opinion, what the UK wants. They've had a number of laws, including the so-called Snoop's charter that allow the government to observe what's going on. And I think honestly, that's the real reason for this governmental control. And they're just, you know, that it's always the case. When you want to get a law past, you say, think of the women and children. Mm-Hmm, <affirmative> just think of the women and children.

Mikah Sargent (00:13:08):
Do you not care about the women and children

Leo Laporte (00:13:12):
Anyway? Yeah. We'll watch that with interest. There's a lot of stuff going on in the EU. Some of it, I feel like, oh, that's good. It's good for privacy. But then in the long run, none of it is <laugh> and in the long how it works, it's none of it good for, for humans and other living things. Eighty eight, eighty eight ask Leo is the phone number. If you wanna talk to Micah and me, you can ask him questions about Facebook. If you want, are you on Facebook?

Mikah Sargent (00:13:36):
Oh God, I have one, but I don't use that.

Leo Laporte (00:13:38):
See, I don't, I don't even have one. So you're the Facebook

Mikah Sargent (00:13:40):
Guy. You're right. I gotta be the Facebook guy.

Leo Laporte (00:13:42):
It's Tech Guy time. Yeah. Elon's trying to reduce the price. That's probably what's going on. Says, oh, this car has only three tires. I don't wanna buy it after all.

Mikah Sargent (00:13:59):
Meanwhile, he's holding the thing that takes the, the fourth tire off and

Leo Laporte (00:14:03):
Behind his legs. Yeah. Yeah. <Laugh> the thing is the car has always had three tires. He just never checked. He never did his due diligence. I don't think that's gonna let him off the hook, but who knows? Maybe, maybe me. Hello? Chat room. Hello? Accordions. Won't somebody please think of the children. Somebody please think of the drone. Oh, here comes the drone dropping off their mail. Ah.

Mikah Sargent (00:14:32):
Oh no.

Leo Laporte (00:14:36):
Thank you. Scooter X. Yeah. Yeah. So our chat is not encrypted. The government is look, can you see it on the screen right now? <Laugh> the government can too. Wow. I wonder if this was an actual

Mikah Sargent (00:15:00):
I know I'm curious about that

Leo Laporte (00:15:01):
Drone experiment. That would be me flying a drone by then. <Laugh> I did a terrible thing this week. I would've another drone.

Mikah Sargent (00:15:08):
I heard such a bad man. So you have the Snapchat one and

Leo Laporte (00:15:12):
I have three

Mikah Sargent (00:15:12):
Drones coming. Oh no.

Leo Laporte (00:15:14):
<Laugh> cause I have the Snapchat one it's it's equivalent for half the price. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> both of those. Aren't really drones. I can hurt myself with cuz you can't fly them. They just do their thing.

Mikah Sargent (00:15:24):
Did you get the Renee Richie one that he just did on Mac break weekly? Yeah. It's darn at Leo.

Leo Laporte (00:15:31):
I shouldn't be allowed to do these shows. It's like me and Instagram <laugh> yeah. The new DJA micro three,

Mikah Sargent (00:15:38):
Because it's small enough that it doesn't make you it's to take

Leo Laporte (00:15:42):
Or whatever. It's like a mini the mini pro three pro it's so small. It's what is it? 259 grams, whatever. It's right under the limit of the the FAA says

Mikah Sargent (00:15:55):
At this point you have to be trained.

Leo Laporte (00:15:58):
Well, no you have I, my old bigger one. I had to FCC license and

Mikah Sargent (00:16:04):
Oh, a license

Leo Laporte (00:16:05):
Pay money for that. Yeah. And then yeah, you have some restrictions, but the mini pro is just is 249 grams. One gram, less Mike ELGAN had it in Mexico. He had the mini pro two or mini two pro and I was so impressed. So now I can do, I can do this.

Mikah Sargent (00:16:26):
You can fly a drone into child space.

Leo Laporte (00:16:32):
FA did I say FCC FAA? Not FCC. FCC has nothing to do with drones. The federal drone administration. Sorry. Yeah. I'm I'm going. I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring it to Alaska. That's exactly right. 

Mikah Sargent (00:16:48):
Oh, flight around and look at the yeah. Bears and

Leo Laporte (00:16:50):
It'll do the follow thing. So I think I could just say follow this boat and it'll do the whole

Mikah Sargent (00:16:55):
Cruise. Are they okay with you flying?

Leo Laporte (00:16:56):
I'm sure. They're not. I'm sure they're gonna arrest me. <Laugh> yeah. It's got Annie crash on all three AEs, which the other one did not. So in theory I can't run it into anything.

Mikah Sargent (00:17:11):
What if a gust of wind like blows it into the ocean? Shut up. <Laugh> that's really terrifying. I don't want you to leaves.

Leo Laporte (00:17:17):
What happened to me last time? It's got a nice camera. Really good camera on it.

Mikah Sargent (00:17:25):
120 frames per second footage.

Leo Laporte (00:17:26):
Yeah. Four K HDR, 60 frames and 10 AP 220 frames. Sounds like it's gonna be really good until I crash

Mikah Sargent (00:17:39):
It. Oh, please don't crash it into the ocean. That'd be so

Leo Laporte (00:17:41):
Sad. Got advanced pilot assisted systems to avoid obstacles even in complicated environments. Like Leo's mind <laugh> Anyway. Oh, you should apologize for this song.

Kim Schaffer (00:17:55):
Going back into the old days.

Leo Laporte (00:17:57):
Kim, Kim likes it though. <Laugh> Kim likes it. Leo Laport, the Tech Guy with my Sergeant Tech Guy too. And Kim Shafer our unbreakable phone angel. She's a wonderful performer. <Laugh>

Kim Schaffer (00:18:14):
Thank you.

Leo Laporte (00:18:15):
How are you, Kim?

Kim Schaffer (00:18:17):
I'm great.

Leo Laporte (00:18:18):
Are you mye? Mye?

Kim Schaffer (00:18:20):
My Thai, my, oh, sounds a little bit like my tie, my tie, my, my tie,

Leo Laporte (00:18:23):
My tie.

Mikah Sargent (00:18:24):
Isn't my tie in that cup.

Kim Schaffer (00:18:25):

Leo Laporte (00:18:26):
Tie. So Lionel Richie's gone on fame and fortune. In fact he's on the voice, right? So he's like a big time singer star.

Kim Schaffer (00:18:32):
No he's on American idol.

Leo Laporte (00:18:33):
One of them, one of them shows where there's people singing mask,

Mikah Sargent (00:18:36):
Mask idol,

Leo Laporte (00:18:37):
Not the ma idol, singers, idol <laugh> but I saw in jeopardy the other night they said the group that Lionel Richie used to play with that was Commodor what is the Commodor? And I thought what? People probably had forgot. They said like, it was easy, like Sunday morning. That was the group that,

Kim Schaffer (00:18:55):
So did they get it right?

Leo Laporte (00:18:56):
I can really

Mikah Sargent (00:18:57):
Get it right. Wait, the Commodor were who sang that song? Easy like Sunday morning. Okay. I'm confused. She's young

Kim Schaffer (00:19:03):
Or is, or is that just, is that just vinyl him?

Mikah Sargent (00:19:06):
I'm so confused.

Leo Laporte (00:19:07):
No, the Commodor is saying that. Okay.

Mikah Sargent (00:19:09):
Really? Okay. I really thought

Leo Laporte (00:19:10):
It was just him. They also sang brick house, which we just played. Give me a break. You

Mikah Sargent (00:19:13):
Guys, I don't know where you

Leo Laporte (00:19:15):
He's so young. Oh my gosh. You're probably still on Snapchat. All right. Let's let's take a call Kim.

Kim Schaffer (00:19:21):
Yes, let's go to Craig and Santa Clak.

Leo Laporte (00:19:24):
Thank you, Kim. Sheer. Hello, Craig and Santa CLA Rita.

Caller 1 (00:19:30):
Hello, Leo and Micah. Hello? Oh, you guys are awesome. You guys. Oh,

Leo Laporte (00:19:35):
I'm so, I'm so glad you called. Thank you.

Caller 1 (00:19:39):
I am well, I've talked to a couple times before. I'm a production designer here in LA. Right now. I'm working for Marvel studios.

Leo Laporte (00:19:48):
Is Dr. Strange as nice in person as he seems like he is on the movies.

Caller 1 (00:19:52):
Yeah, he's a real guy. He's nice. What

Leo Laporte (00:19:59):
Did you work on before? I I'm trying to remember. Cuz you told us before. Was it the I can't remember.

Caller 1 (00:20:05):
I worked on lots of things. Oh boy. 

Leo Laporte (00:20:07):
Famous stuff.

Caller 1 (00:20:09):
35 films, like

Leo Laporte (00:20:11):
Holy cow.

Caller 1 (00:20:13):
It started Disney doing Hercules and Mulan and emperor's new groove and home home in the range. Treasure planet green

Leo Laporte (00:20:21):
Works. I won't make you do all of them. That's

Caller 1 (00:20:23):
Okay. No <laugh>

Leo Laporte (00:20:26):
Anyway. Pleasure. A pleasure to talk to you again. Yeah. Thank you for your good work.

Caller 1 (00:20:31):
I can never tell you what I'm working on now.

Leo Laporte (00:20:33):
No, I understand. Yeah.

Caller 1 (00:20:35):
So we were in a meeting reviewing footage of one of our shots and we have a program we've used called sync sketch that sends since we're all working at home, it sends the, the the video to us over the internet and to our monitors and during the LA that session on Friday, my monitor freaked out. And I don't even know if it's possible that it, something came from the program 

Leo Laporte (00:21:04):
To mess up the monitor. No,

Caller 1 (00:21:06):
It started flashing and then it got burned in for several hours after that.

Leo Laporte (00:21:11):
Oh my golly,

Caller 1 (00:21:12):
Really nice, really nice view. Sonic monitor like a 4k. And it lasted like the rest of the day, probably like five hours. And then in the morning it was like really subtly there. And I freaked out of course, because I need this monitor to work. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and I ordered one of the Amazon next day, but you know, it went away and it's gone. It's been gone a whole week.

Leo Laporte (00:21:34):
That doesn't sound like it syncs sketches problem or the max problem or the monitors problem. It sounds like it might be the cables problem, an electrical blast from a short in the cable and the burning would come in because it made the monitor go brighter than it's supposed to, you know? Ah, that's what it sounds like to me, it sounds like an electrical issue. So the,

Caller 1 (00:22:01):
The other, the funny thing is I tried it on my, so I, I used different ports I used, so normally I use it display port that's what I was using at the time.

Leo Laporte (00:22:10):
And that's the one you wanna use by the way on an M one. Go ahead.

Caller 1 (00:22:13):
Okay. The, yeah, I have a, one of the ultras, the studio. I love it.

Leo Laporte (00:22:18):
Very nice. So the, the difference between the H DMI port, which also has in the display port is the display port will go to 120 frames. It's it's definitely the preferred video out, right? Thunder bolted, display port.

Caller 1 (00:22:31):
Okay. So I also tried H DMI with my laptop and the same images were burned in. And I also tried H DMI with my PC.

Leo Laporte (00:22:38):
Oh, then I'm wrong. Then I'm

Mikah Sargent (00:22:40):
Wrong when you plug them in, it was still showing that residual, what, what, you're

Leo Laporte (00:22:45):
The burden's on the monitor if you yeah, yeah, no moving the port won't fix the burn, but the good news is on an LCD. It usually goes away. It's a, it's a temporary thing. That's an that hang on because we're gonna take a break. Scott, Wilkinson's coming up, our home theater geek. Maybe he'll have some suggestions. Leo Laporte Micah Sergeant. It's the Tech Guy show. So I doesn't this sound electrical. Yeah, go ahead, Claire. Get clarify.

Mikah Sargent (00:23:23):
I'll clarify with Craig, because it sounds like Craig, what you're saying is you, you saw this happen on your monitor and there was what you were calling burn, where part of the image was still staying on screen. Then you took and plugged in something else. And that same residual image was on the new display that you plugged in. Is that correct?

Caller 1 (00:23:40):
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. On two other computers

Mikah Sargent (00:23:42):
On two other computers, it was still showing that tells me that it's not a it's not burn in actuality. There's something going on with the, the display drivers or

Leo Laporte (00:23:52):
Something. Well, it could be burn sometimes. I mean, if it were, if we're I dunno, what do you think Scott, if we're a lot brighter, is it

Mikah Sargent (00:23:59):
Possible, but how did it burn into three different monitors that he,

Leo Laporte (00:24:01):
Oh, it was different monitors.

Mikah Sargent (00:24:02):
Yeah. He plugged in different monitors and it was still showing, oh,

Leo Laporte (00:24:04):
I thought it was just the same monitor.

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:05):
Yeah. I, I would not believe that it was actual burn. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:24:09):
Not if it's different monitors.

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:11):
Well, certainly not.

Leo Laporte (00:24:12):
So wait a minute now, wait a minute. Let's ask, let me ask. Okay. So Craig, you're saying you swapped in different monitors.

Caller 1 (00:24:19):
No, no. It's one monitor. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:24:21):
Right. That's what I thought. And different cables. Different tried different reports.

Mikah Sargent (00:24:25):

Leo Laporte (00:24:26):
The monitors burn in. Okay. Now, now the thing I want ask

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:29):
Now to, for it to happen suddenly makes no sense to me. I mean it suddenly and strongly it's

Leo Laporte (00:24:34):
Like, yeah, no, it's just stuck. It's not a burning. It's a stuck,

Caller 1 (00:24:39):
The whole thing went blue. And like it, the like the, yeah, the line of, of like, there were a bunch of horizontal lines.

Leo Laporte (00:24:46):
Oh geez. It fried. It might have fried your monitor, but you said it got better.

Caller 1 (00:24:51):
Yeah. And it's fine now. Okay.

Leo Laporte (00:24:53):
So what happened is

Caller 1 (00:24:54):
Boxes in the living room I'm waiting like, should I send it back or

Leo Laporte (00:24:57):
No, no, no, no. Lcds are shutters right in front of a back light, red, green, and blue. It got the shut. The pixels got stuck by a sudden blast of electricity. The good news is they relaxed and, and they, and they went right. Scott does that sound right?

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:14):
That sounds right. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:25:16):
So the good news LCD does not really have a burning problem, like CRTs and plasma, so, okay. Correct. I, I think that that was just stuck pixels sometimes. Actually I've heard people advise massaging. <Laugh> your screen. If you have,

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:29):
I've heard that too. I've never tried it, but I've heard fortunately,

Leo Laporte (00:25:32):
You didn't have to do that. Craig <laugh>. Cause that could be embarrassing for both of you, but

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:37):

Caller 1 (00:25:39):
I have to lotion my screen. Hang

Leo Laporte (00:25:40):
On. Yeah. It's it is. So once the burning happened, it doesn't matter what port or what cable you're using. The original problem though, came from that cable. I suspect came from that cable could have been that port, but it sounds like a short and a short that suddenly went into the monitor could absolutely stick pixels and you know, it got better. So I think the monitor's fine. I would absolutely replace that, that display port cable and also, you know, how display port, it actually clicks in, make sure it was fully clicked in.

Caller 1 (00:26:11):
Yeah, it was seated there. Anding. That was my first thing I took. Like, well maybe this hanging out and no, you have to push the thing in even to get it out. I had another super quick question about KVMs and the Mac, when I switch between my, my PC and my Mac, I lose all my display settings on this ultra. I didn't on my old trashcan Mac pro.

Leo Laporte (00:26:31):
Yeah. Honestly, I think apple has massive problems with displays on the M one. Yeah. I think this is I hope fixable. Although Apple's had a number of updates, not that have yet to fix problems like this, my wife has two monitors. One sometimes won't come on until she reboots. There's all sorts of issues. I think with the M one and video, and I hear lots of, kind of anecdotal issues with that. I think it's just, it's, It's, it's the M one life for us.

Caller 1 (00:27:04):
It leading edge. M one I'm thinking maybe you'll swap for a pro or

Leo Laporte (00:27:09):
I love these studios. I mean, I just think they're really great, but I think that's the one thing yeah. Apple has got to figure out and they're not admitting anything, but I just,

Caller 1 (00:27:20):
No, they're not. I know nice thing is too that I actually don't have to switch to my PC because like I use it for a 3d and it, it renders yeah. Thousands of faster.

Leo Laporte (00:27:31):
Yeah. Maybe when you're can you use sync sketch on windows?

Caller 1 (00:27:35):
Yeah, yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:27:36):
Yeah. Maybe just do that on windows and use the power of the studio for rendering. Hey, we have to run.

Caller 1 (00:27:44):
Thanks so much.

Leo Laporte (00:27:45):
Pleasure to talk to you as always Greg, have a good one.

Caller 1 (00:27:48):
Have a great day. You guys bye-bye thanks.

Leo Laporte (00:27:49):
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Scott Wilkinson (00:31:27):
Really weird,

Leo Laporte (00:31:28):
What happened? He was using some software and there was a sudden <laugh>

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:34):

Leo Laporte (00:31:35):
Monitor monitor, bright blue and weird. And then there was, he says burn in, but there was a ghost image on the monitor. He unplugged it, tried different ports and stuff. The ghost monitor image remained after a while has gone away. His monitor's completely normal. Now he's wondering if it's, if he should replace the monitor, did you, what, what do you think Scott? Any thoughts about that?

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:00):
Well, I, I think you were right when you said that, that it got some sort of blast of electricity and the LCD shutters, the little LCD subpixels were forced open or closed and they can

Leo Laporte (00:32:15):
Get stuck.

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:16):
They can get stuck. They freaked out for a little while, but then they relaxed. <Laugh> relaxed,

Leo Laporte (00:32:22):
Man. Cause LCDs correct me if I'm wrong, they don't get burning per se. Correct?

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:27):

Leo Laporte (00:32:28):
Remember we, we used to have screensavers on our CRTs and then when we went to LCD screens, everybody said, well, you don't really need a screensaver anymore because you can leave the same image on there. But, but that's interesting. There's shutters in the LCD could get stuck.

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:42):

Leo Laporte (00:32:43):
I've heard people now tell me if I'm nuts, say you take a soft Shammy and you massage the picture.

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:49):
<Laugh> the pixel. I've heard this too. I've heard this too. I have never tried it. I have never actually seen it you know, happen, but I,

Mikah Sargent (00:32:58):
That on the suggestions for fixing stuck pixels and that is

Leo Laporte (00:33:01):
One <laugh>. Yeah, yeah. You massage it with a sh you don't do it with your finger. You do it. Nice. No,

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:06):
You do it with a

Leo Laporte (00:33:06):
Shammy, the microfiber cloth or a Shammy or something. Okay. Well, yeah, we don't know what happened, but I'm, I'm gonna say get, get a new cable, at least for sure.

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:15):
Yeah. Maybe the cable shorted out.

Leo Laporte (00:33:17):
That's right. That's what it's gotta be. How else would you get a blast of electricity to a monitor? You're not gonna, yeah, the Max's not gonna do it. It doesn't have that capability.

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:26):
Right? I think it, well, cable cable by itself. Doesn't either. It's gotta that. Well, if there's, A's gotta come from somewhere,

Leo Laporte (00:33:31):
Let's say the cables short, broken a short would absolutely do that, right?

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:35):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's true. That's

Leo Laporte (00:33:36):
True. So that's what I think. Get rid of the get rid of the cable, get a new cable and hope it doesn't happen again. <Laugh> right. <Laugh> what do you wanna talk about this week, Mr. Home theater geek?

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:46):
Oh, this week. I wanna talk about the fact that I went to a conference last week. What

Leo Laporte (00:33:51):
You were first saying, oh,

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:54):
I know I was wearing a mask the whole time. Nice. Except for when I was shooting the video for the podcast, which is gonna be up on forum in about half an hour, I'm told nice. The guy is gonna put all the video together. We had 

Leo Laporte (00:34:11):
What was the conference?

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:13):
The conference was called display week and it's put on by the society for information display.

Leo Laporte (00:34:19):
So it was a bunch of monitors. What was it? Oh,

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:21):
No, no, no, no, no, no. It's

Leo Laporte (00:34:24):
Anything. No, no. How foolish you are. <Laugh>

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:27):
It's any kind of display, including TVs AR VR headsets you know, anything, anything that that produces an image is fair game for this conference. And the conference is concerned mostly with the underlying technology. So this is a super geeky conference. I mean, we get, we get into the, one of the biggest stories at the show was quantum dots. And we've talked about that many times, quantum dots are little microscopics fears of semiconductor material that when you hit them with blue light, say they absorb the blue light and then emit a lower frequency, longer wavelength, light, say green or red at a very precise frequency, depending on how big they are and their size can be very precisely regulated in the manufacturing process. So the company NSIs, which is the biggest producer of these tiny little quantum dots, and they're used in all the TVs that you see that have quantum Q L E D and QD this and that NSIs supplies, the quantum dots for most of them, Samsung, Sony, LG, all these companies they were there and they don't, they don't make anything that consumers can buy, but what they make affects, what consumers buy, the TVs that consumers buy.

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:54):
So we, we shot the, the podcast in their booth and we talked to their CEO and president Jason Hartlove about what they were showing at the show. And what's the big news. As in addition, we saw, we, I talked to Bob O'Brien from display supply chain consultants, and we talked about the supply chain issues, which are kind of interesting.

Leo Laporte (00:36:19):
Yeah, that was actually, my question is is everything in electronics is getting hard to get, you know,

Scott Wilkinson (00:36:27):
Well, he's interestingly he said that it wasn't as big an issue for displays, as everybody seems to think,

Leo Laporte (00:36:35):
Oh, that's a relief.

Scott Wilkinson (00:36:36):
I was amazed actually at that. We also talked to a guy from the head of R and D for high sensee USA about what they're doing with quantum dots and our friend Mike Heiss, who is in his, been in the chat room quite a bit and, and is a good friend of mine, a industry consultant and journalist. And so we had a great time shooting this, this video. It wasn't streamed live because we couldn't get a, a hard wire ethernet cable into the booth without spending astronomical amounts of money. So we shot it and it's getting edited and put up on it'll be on YouTube. And, and like I say, less than half an hour. So

Leo Laporte (00:37:19):
Tell us what you learned at display week.

Scott Wilkinson (00:37:21):
Well, the big thing was I got my first look at Samsung's QD O led that is, we talked about this a couple weeks ago.

Leo Laporte (00:37:32):
So this is, this has not been sale, new type of OLET. This is only this is about to go on sale. Something

Scott Wilkinson (00:37:36):
Like it's about to go on sale. It's if it isn't already, it's really imminent. And it's a new type of L E D of O led, sorry in which the green and red components are actually the, that light is emitted by quantum dots. It's called photo luminescent, quantum dots, and they put it up. Nsis had a great display. They put up a 65 inch Samsung QD O led, which they call QD display next to an LG. OLET a normal O led, which up till now has been my favorite. And I think the best display technology and the QD O led was significantly better. It had richer colors. It, it just looked more vibrant. It was really good. Really good.

Leo Laporte (00:38:28):
So wait a minute now. Alphabet soup wise. Yeah, this is a P L Q D O L E D <laugh>. Is that correct?

Scott Wilkinson (00:38:36):
It's an <laugh>. Let's see. Q D QD O L E D

Leo Laporte (00:38:42):
O L E D Q. Yes. Okay. Good

Scott Wilkinson (00:38:45):
QD O led

Leo Laporte (00:38:45):
QD O led. And that's cuz they're using quantum dots in the back light.

Scott Wilkinson (00:38:50):
No, no. In this case there's no back the back light in

Leo Laporte (00:38:52):
The O led

Scott Wilkinson (00:38:53):
Dots, there is a backlight in the actual dots, the actual subpixels they are, they are quantum dots and the backlight in, in the case, in all of the in all of thes pixels is

Leo Laporte (00:39:06):

Scott Wilkinson (00:39:06):
Yeah. In LCDs, no that's white and it's the same white light that comes through the, the pixels, right in QD O led blue O led material sends light into the quantum dot and then the quantum dot emits green or red. And then the blue comes through in the blue subpixels by itself without any quantum dots. Anyway, the picture is better.

Leo Laporte (00:39:28):
Good. That's all that's really picture is better red. I want is the picture better? Scott?

Scott Wilkinson (00:39:32):
Not only that dig this. Yes, but the L the LG O led lists for 3,200 bucks, that model that they had there, the quantum O led will be $3,000. It's

Leo Laporte (00:39:43):

Scott Wilkinson (00:39:44):
So it's even less expensive

Leo Laporte (00:39:45):
Say, does that, is that because they're, why is that?

Scott Wilkinson (00:39:48):
I don't know. Can't wanna

Leo Laporte (00:39:51):
Push that can market maybe. Huh?

Scott Wilkinson (00:39:53):
Well, I have to tell you, as soon as that TV becomes available, I'm buying one.

Leo Laporte (00:39:59):
Yeah. That's like a better OLET. In other words,

Scott Wilkinson (00:40:01):
It is it's right. That's exactly what it is.

Leo Laporte (00:40:03):
So there's better. OLET out there. You were very excited about this before CES. You said, I can't tell you what it is, but there's gonna be something announced at the consumer electronic show in January that it's gonna change the way you watch TV and you were right.

Scott Wilkinson (00:40:16):
Yep. Scott,

Leo Laporte (00:40:17):
I was that's exciting. Scott book, its at home theater, geek watches videos at forum. And of course he joins us here every week. Thank you, Scott.

Scott Wilkinson (00:40:27):
You bet.

Leo Laporte (00:40:34):
Yeah. We started watching the north man last night on the big projector.

Scott Wilkinson (00:40:40):
Ah, the high

Leo Laporte (00:40:41):
Got about three seconds in and I said, let's go watch it on the Ola. <Laugh> and it was the right choice, cuz it really did look much better on

Scott Wilkinson (00:40:48):
There. Oh I'm sure it did. Yeah. I'm sure it did.

Leo Laporte (00:40:50):
Yeah. would you like to take the helm for another couple of minutes

Scott Wilkinson (00:40:55):
Here? I'd love to. Thank

Leo Laporte (00:40:56):
You. Righty. My friend. It is your turn to hem.

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:02):
He hem I' love he

Leo Laporte (00:41:05):
MFI hem know

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:07):
Hem. Hey everybody. So nice to see you all. I'm so glad to be here. And it's a lovely day in Santa Cruz. Lovely day. Lovely. After the lovely day. Lovely day. Lovely day. Lovely did.

Leo Laporte (00:41:23):
Yep. Commodor right. No <laugh> joking.

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:27):
No, I think that was, was that bill Withers? Bill

Leo Laporte (00:41:29):
Withers. Very good.

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:31):
Ah, okay. As soon I'm gonna stick around for the top of the hour, but after that we are heading out for some house hunting, going to some open house.

Leo Laporte (00:41:38):
So exciting. Sad.

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:40):
Yeah. That's very exciting. We got really close to a house that we love

Leo Laporte (00:41:45):
Whereabouts, but then you

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:46):
Did your due diligence unlike no, we did our due diligence.

Leo Laporte (00:41:49):
Yes. And it was full of spam bots.

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:51):
<Laugh> <laugh> it was in SoCal.

Leo Laporte (00:41:55):
Oh I like Soquel,

Scott Wilkinson (00:41:57):
Which is a little suburb of Santa Cruz. If you can imagine that Santa Cruz

Leo Laporte (00:42:00):
Look in cap too. I love

Scott Wilkinson (00:42:02):
To oh, we have been. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This place we loved it. It was on a Creek. It had Redwood around it. It was so gorgeous. And we got beat out by an all cash offer from Silicon valley.

Leo Laporte (00:42:14):
Get you every time. Yep.

Scott Wilkinson (00:42:16):
That are gonna get you every time. So whenever they say all cash, I mean, is it like

Leo Laporte (00:42:20):
There's a briefcase, a briefcase. Yeah. They

Scott Wilkinson (00:42:23):
Write you almost, almost literally. Almost literally. I mean cash escrow. It goes through escrow. Right. But they they're gonna, I don't know. They're gonna PO they

Leo Laporte (00:42:31):
Don't have to get a loan, which is for the selling. They

Scott Wilkinson (00:42:33):
Don't have to get a loan and they can, and they can make an escrow a very short, right. Like 15 days or whatever. So we couldn't do that. We, we don't have all cash. We've got a nice big chunk for down payment from selling our house in LA mm-hmm <affirmative> but we don't have the kind of money to put down all cash here. So we got skunked and I was bummed cuz we loved that place. Aw. We were the one of the last two too. We were in the final round of negotiations. Aw. That day was like our, our realtor going. Okay. Okay. Can you go up anymore? Can you go up anymore?

Leo Laporte (00:43:09):
That's anyway, I've had that happen.

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:11):

Leo Laporte (00:43:11):
But you know what I also learned. Cause it's, cuz it's happened many times to me is you're gonna get the house of your dreams. Cause every time that that's happened, we ended up buying a house that we liked better. So yeah. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:23):
Our realtor said the exact same thing. Yeah. So we're we are maintaining our faith.

Leo Laporte (00:43:28):
Never fall in love with a house

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:30):
That that

Leo Laporte (00:43:31):
Will help that's until you ready to move in.

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:33):
Yes, exactly.

Leo Laporte (00:43:36):
Then fall in.

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:36):
Anyway, we got a bunch of bunch of open houses to go to today. So how fun, very

Leo Laporte (00:43:41):
Excited. That's always a fun thing to do. I like it is.

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:44):
Yeah. Yeah. It is. We're gonna, there are a couple of 'em are up in Scotts valley.

Leo Laporte (00:43:47):
Oh, another nice place. But you are you're competing. This is the problem in that area. The house prices have gone up a lot because Silicon valley it's just over the hill from Silicon valley. So a lot of

Scott Wilkinson (00:43:58):
People from Silicon valley wanna live here.

Leo Laporte (00:44:00):
I live there. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:44:01):
And, and since they can work from home so much the

Leo Laporte (00:44:03):
Better. Yeah. Well even not even before then it was very desirable. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:44:07):
Of course. To commute, you have to drive over 17, which is this windy windy road. I've heard more than one person refer to as the alley of blood. Well, dear,

Leo Laporte (00:44:19):
It's not that bad.

Scott Wilkinson (00:44:20):

Leo Laporte (00:44:20):
Tic you. I used to drive it. I used to drive it all the time, but yeah, it's not bad. It's fun actually. And I think, you know, the, the idea for these executives is it's more affordable living capital than it is, you know, Woodley.

Scott Wilkinson (00:44:33):
It's true. It's true. Actually the average house price in Santa Cruz is lower than it is

Leo Laporte (00:44:37):

Scott Wilkinson (00:44:38):
Right. Silicon

Leo Laporte (00:44:38):
Valley. They're saving money. All right. You wanna stick around for the top and then go have hunting. All right. Thank bet, sir. Leo Laport, Mikah Sargent your Tech Guys on the radio. Eighty eight, eighty eight. Ask Leo is the phone number. It's really ask Leo and Micah, but you don't have to dial the N Micah, but it is in fact, 88, 88, ask Leo and Micah. So go ahead. Dial all those numbers. Try that. I dunno if it'll work. It'll work cuz I think it's just, well just ignore the letter. I think it just ignore the extra. Huh? Kim, try it. Phone angel. You know, if can they dial 88, 88 ask Leo and Micah? I do not, but I'll try it. <Laugh> right. And actually you can dial, you can spell Micah any way you want <laugh> yeah, that doesn't matter. Pat is on the line next from Portland, Oregon. Hello pat.

Caller 2 (00:45:23):
Hi there.

Leo Laporte (00:45:24):
Thanks for hanging on. Welcome.

Caller 2 (00:45:27):
Yeah. Hello from a rainy day on Portland.

Leo Laporte (00:45:31):
Nice. I, I wish you would send some down aren't we? Yeah. Please do

Caller 2 (00:45:36):
Something new. Yeah. For Portland, right? Yep. <Laugh> Hey I have a frozen dessert catering service that we use a we use a high roof ProMaster van for our service and we are primarily a private catering service.

Leo Laporte (00:45:56):
So tell me what goods you deliver in your van. <Laugh> tell me all about,

Caller 2 (00:46:03):
Yeah, we, we we are the ice cream truck for grownups.

Leo Laporte (00:46:07):
Oh, oh my God. Do you have a, do you have a musical jingle that plays as you drive the, around the neighborhood?

Caller 2 (00:46:14):
No, no, no. We don't do neighborhoods. We are for hire wedding corporate.

Leo Laporte (00:46:18):
Oh, but how cool to have Mr. Frosty at the wedding? <Laugh> right. But you need a jingle, you need like chicken in the straw. That's what the ice cream truck used to play in our neighborhood. <Laugh> and, and then, and then you, you know, obviously you're not trying to get the neighborhood kids to come running up, but I just feel like that's anyway. What, so what kind of, you said adult, what kind of a desserts are we getting here?

Caller 2 (00:46:43):
Well, we do hand scooped in bowls and waffle cones. We made group beer or orange cream floats, you know, bars,

Leo Laporte (00:46:51):
Your float, what's the website.

Caller 2 (00:46:54):
<Laugh> I'm sorry. It is the mobile scoop shop,

Leo Laporte (00:46:58):
The mobile scoop shop. I love it. So you're really more, not so much a frosty truck as a Mr. Frost truck as a as a a scoop shop as a ice cream parlor on, on wheels. So what do you need to make your business sing? What can we do to help you?

Caller 2 (00:47:15):
Well, we have some awesome staff and one of the things that now in today's environment, it's really kind of nice to have a little bit of security for them. So I

Leo Laporte (00:47:26):
Do people sneak up, sneak up and try to go in the back door and steal some treats.

Caller 2 (00:47:31):
No, but you do occasionally get that overindulged guess

Leo Laporte (00:47:38):
So some, so you wanna get a video of the, of the window of people coming up And okay. And, and, and you want, so now obviously you don't have an internet connection in, in the truck.

Caller 2 (00:47:54):
Right? I have an iPad that we run Spotify off of just oh, nice. Kinda bring a little bit of fun Turkey

Leo Laporte (00:48:03):
In the straw. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

Caller 2 (00:48:05):
Yeah. You know, customized to the type of group.

Leo Laporte (00:48:08):
What if I have, if I ever get married again, I'm having the mobile scoop shop come. Maybe Micah, you could, you could have I'll come to the wedding. How about that? There we go. So this is so cute. Don't have the wedding anymore. So, so you wanna have you don't care about the rest of the, around the air truck, just the, just the, where the customers are coming up. Kind of

Caller 2 (00:48:29):
Right. We don't, we aren't stationary. So, you know, we're not in a food call.

Leo Laporte (00:48:33):
And do you wanna continue? This is the real question with security cameras. There's two types. There's continuous video. It's recording all the time or there's yeah. See, in your case, the other kind, which is motion activated is gonna be motion all the time so that isn't gonna solve anything. It sounds like you want, it's

Caller 2 (00:48:54):
Just during gigs. I'm sorry. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:48:56):
Obviously, obviously when you're just driving to a gig, you don't care. Right. So there's two problems to solve. I presume you have plenty of power. You could plug it in. Yes. Yeah. And do you have

Caller 2 (00:49:10):
As well, so

Leo Laporte (00:49:11):
Do you have cigarette lighter power as well as plugin power?

Caller 2 (00:49:16):

Leo Laporte (00:49:17):
Yeah. I'm thinking, oh, that a dash cam a mobile dash cam might actually be the solution. There are dash cams that have 3g or LTE connectivity, so that they'd always be streaming. You could do something that streams only locally that's certainly possible. So you, you could say that iPad that's playing Spotify, you could connect that. You could make that be a hotspot. Do you it's plain Spotify. So it has LTE connectivity, obviously. That's where you're getting the music from.

Caller 2 (00:49:48):
It is the iPad I have found does not always provide the strongest

Leo Laporte (00:49:54):

Caller 2 (00:49:54):
Connection. Okay. We use Verizon. So, you know, I don't know if that's how relevant that is, but I understand it's one of the better it

Leo Laporte (00:50:05):
Is. I mean, it depends on the area I'm gonna presume it's good in Portland, but again, as you point out, you might be going to, you know, a wedding that's somewhere up in the redwoods or something, and then they don't have good connectivity up there. So we're not gonna count on that. So we wanna record locally, I think, is this what we really want is a camera that a security camera that records locally, most of the ones that do that, do this on an SD card. If there's an incident, you pop, you, you know, you drive away as fast as you can, and then you pop out the SD card for later perusal. So it's a little memory card in the camera. That's recording. There's a lot of cameras that can do that. In fact, this is easier because you don't need internet access on this camera. I presume you are not gonna be monitoring it from offsite. You just want a recording of what's going on.

Caller 2 (00:50:53):
Well, I, I mean, I wouldn't mind that we've grown to a point where not generally onsite for the majority of I

Leo Laporte (00:51:02):
Get event. So now you, you do need internet access cuz you wanna look at what's going on at the 14 trucks that are out and about, okay, so we do need internet access. That makes it a little more complicated. Yeah. the problem with the dash cam is those are, those are record, but they'll record in a loop <laugh> okay. So they, and the loops can vary depending on the size of the memory and so forth. The idea being, if there's an accident you know you're gonna save when that happened. Otherwise it's just gonna reuse the memory card when it runs out, but that could be 24 hours. That could be plenty of time. So that's not a dash cam would work. There are a few dash cams that have, I, I think it may be worth looking at the Y at the owl cam.

Leo Laporte (00:51:52):
This, we were talking about this the other day, this, this was a really cool dash cam owl that had internet access built in 4g internet access. They are now pushing it for fleet solutions which tells me that this is, you know, gives you a desktop fleet management platform. So you can watch it at the office. See what's going on, it'll stream, live HD video over 3g. It has GPS, which you probably don't care that much about. But yeah, maybe if one of our trucks has gone missing, you'd know where it was. I think this might be the solution for you it's designed for O automotive. So the WL cam actually pulls its power off an ODB two port. But I imagine there's other ways to power it for fleets because I don't know if trucks have ODB two ports, take a look at the owl cam. I think this is it's ostensibly a dash cam, but it has exactly the features you want, which is live streaming video remotely built in 3g. So you don't have to worry about tying it to the iPad or anything like that. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> I think this sounds like a good solution. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> you're gonna want something like this, essentially. Okay. But WL I think is the, is the one you want.

Caller 2 (00:53:11):
Okay. Do they, or should I consider a a two camera system? Like one in the driver's cab and then what would normally be like a rear

Leo Laporte (00:53:26):
Face? Well, one of the things that's cool about the a cam is it is a two camera system. It shoots ahead and back. So if you positioned it well you could have it be shooting the counter, but also looking behind it at the driver's position. If you wanted, you could even move it when you're on the road, which would then give you a record of the drive. I think this is, I think, I think it is, this is the way to go owl and check out their fleet solutions. Yep. Leo and Micah, the Tech Guys I'm so I'm so hungry now. <Laugh> what's your number one. Treat that people, you know, want,

Caller 2 (00:54:04):
Oh, walking Sunday in a waffle cone.

Leo Laporte (00:54:07):
I'm telling you I want it now. It looks like you'll set up tables too. So it's not just the truck I'm looking at. I'm looking at pictures. <Laugh> that's so looks like so much fun. What a good business was this your idea?

Caller 2 (00:54:21):
Yeah. Yeah. We make Italian ice and it sort of was

Leo Laporte (00:54:25):
Oh, gelatos. Yeah. Yummy. Yum. Yum. Okay. Well, if you're in the Portland area, the mobile scoop

Caller 2 (00:54:35):
Thank you.

Leo Laporte (00:54:36):
Every bride wants a Sunday, local

Mikah Sargent (00:54:38):
Fruits and berries.

Leo Laporte (00:54:40):
Oh man. Ma'am we would have you, we would have you for our our, our Christmas party for sure. The staff would love you ginger

Mikah Sargent (00:54:48):
Peach. Oh, you're killing me. <Laugh>

Leo Laporte (00:54:51):
Yeah. I think that Dow cam is actually perfect. You could get too if you wanted. But you could even have it set up so that when you're stationary, it's showing the customers and what's going on inside the truck. And then when you move, you put it up in the front and the dashboard. So it has out the window and the driver.

Caller 2 (00:55:10):

Leo Laporte (00:55:11):
I think it's exactly what you want. Yeah. Yeah.

Caller 2 (00:55:14):
Well, see, thank you.

Leo Laporte (00:55:15):
Thank you for calling. I appreciate it. Pat. Have a good one. You're

Caller 2 (00:55:19):

Leo Laporte (00:55:20):
I want some ice cream now. <Laugh> cream, a cream. All right. Back to the man of the hour. <Laugh>

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:31):
I'm looking at those pictures too, man.

Leo Laporte (00:55:33):
Doesn't that look good? Oh, but a good idea. The mobile scoop shot. Good idea.

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:38):

Leo Laporte (00:55:38):
Vancouver, Beaverton, Salem. They go up to hood river if you really make them nice.

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:45):
I like it. Have you guys ever had I in, in LA we had a, a once a month. Food truck extravaganza.

Leo Laporte (00:55:53):
Yeah, we have it here. We have that here. Actually. There's a, I think

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:57):
Now do they have, do they have a food truck with, with liquid nitrogen, sudden ice

Leo Laporte (00:56:03):
Cream? Oh, isn't that fun? Making the ice cream like that? I I've I've had it that way. We actually did it on the new screen savers, I think. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's really good. It's so creamy. Yeah, because it it's so fast. You don't get crystals in. It's really good.

Scott Wilkinson (00:56:16):
Yeah. I first had that at a, at a party after the premiere of the movie transcendence, I happened to get invited and they had a party afterwards and they had one of these liquid nitrogen. You, you know, you mix cream with, with stuff and then you pour liquid nitrogen into it and it freezes instantly and into a soft serve. And it's so good. It is so good. Anyway, enough about ice cream making me hungry too. Thanks. K woods. Wishing me good luck house hunting. I I somebody earlier said, you know, the right attitude is have faith. The right thing will come along and it'll be better than what you lost. And I am holding that picture in my mind now, web 60, 60, 16 31 said what's a really nice display to get for my living room. I have an older LG U H D 4k.

Scott Wilkinson (00:57:14):
I assume you don't mean an O led. I mean, presumably you mean an LCD. If you have an O led, then why replace it? There's no reason to replace it in my opinion, except if you wanna wait a little while, I'm not sure exactly when it's gonna be out and available to the public, but the new Samsung QD O led is better than O led <laugh>. I, I, I hesitate even to say that, because I've always said O led was the best display and it was up till now. Now I'm gonna have to say QD O led is the best display. It even gets brighter. Sorry. Some of the specs that I didn't get to say on the air were this the O led the LGO led in the side by side comparison, we saw some specs gets to 77% of the BT 2020 color space, which is the range of colors that the display can reproduce.

Scott Wilkinson (00:58:20):
The QD led gets to over 90% of that same color space. The w O led gets to the regular O led gets to nine 30 peak knits, peak white and four 50 knits. If you just combine red, green, and blue, because remember most O LEDs have a red, green, and blue subpixels and also a white subpixels. So if you blast all of those equally, you get to nine 30. If you only use our G and B without the white, you get to four 50 with a QD display, 1500 knits in both peak white and peak RGB. So it doesn't matter because there is no white pixel in a QD O led that's, that's why they're the same and they're brighter than a current OLET. It also has a deeper red for those of you who are reup into super geeky stuff, the red on the regular O led is at 626 nanometers. That's the center of the red peak and on the QD display, it's six 40 nanometers. So it's a longer wavelength, a deeper red it, it looked phenomenal in, in this to, in this side by side comparison, which by the way, they put both displays in their filmmaker mode, which is the most accurate out of the box preset mode available. So I asked them, I said, did you calibrate these? And they said, no, we didn't calibrate 'em, but we put 'em both in their filmmaker mode. Oh, okay. So that's pretty

Leo Laporte (00:59:59):
Good. Did they say what the, the color space is?

Scott Wilkinson (01:00:02):
Yeah. the QD O led is over 90% of BT 2020, which is the largest color space available to video period. Huh? And the regular OLET is 77% of that. Huh? So that's, that's a lot standard, more color.

Leo Laporte (01:00:26):
D C I P three is what motion pictures use.

Scott Wilkinson (01:00:29):
Correct. And that is smaller than BT

Leo Laporte (01:00:32):
2020. So if it covers BT, it would cover D C I P three a hundred percent. Correct.

Scott Wilkinson (01:00:39):
Oh, more than, yeah. If it's, if it's over 90% of 2020, then it's more.

Leo Laporte (01:00:43):
And I wonder why they didn't just say it's D C I P three.

Scott Wilkinson (01:00:49):
Well, you know, it's a

Leo Laporte (01:00:50):
Number there's film make mode. I want it to be,

Scott Wilkinson (01:00:53):
You want it to be, yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree with you. And if they, if they mastered it in P three and they were looking at P three and they that's what they saw, then that's what you wanna see at home. I agree.

Leo Laporte (01:01:08):
The other thing is who red is? Red. Depends on the film, right? What the red is. There's no, there's, there's

Scott Wilkinson (01:01:17):
A, well, except there nobody uses

Leo Laporte (01:01:19):
Film. There's matching. Well, whatever, they're, they're matching a certain wavelength of red. The fact that it, I hope it doesn't shift the red.

Scott Wilkinson (01:01:28):
Yeah. That's a good question. That's a good question. I'll have to look into,

Leo Laporte (01:01:33):
Cause that's not a, that's not more accurate. That's just

Scott Wilkinson (01:01:35):
Ma matching. Well, it depends really on what the ma again, what the mastering colorist did. Did they, were they looking at red at 6 26 nanometers?

Leo Laporte (01:01:48):
Well, that's why it's weird for them to say our red is 704 nanometers,

Scott Wilkinson (01:01:55):
Like six 40 or

Leo Laporte (01:01:56):
Whatever. Yeah. Well that's irrelevant. Does it mean it can. I mean <laugh>, is it more red? No, I don't understand. Why're saying it's deeper red, but it's a deeper red, but maybe does it mean that other monitors couldn't do it? I don't understand what that even means.

Scott Wilkinson (01:02:16):

Leo Laporte (01:02:17):
Cause it's not all we're trying to do is match the colors of the source,

Scott Wilkinson (01:02:21):
Correct? Correct.

Leo Laporte (01:02:23):
So if I send six 40, I wanna see six 40, but if I said 7 0 3, I wanna see 7 0 3. I don't understand. Right. What they're talking about when they say, well, we could do six 40. I don't there's no red.

Scott Wilkinson (01:02:40):
<Laugh> right. Well, red, red is a perception, right?

Leo Laporte (01:02:44):
I mean, well, what,

Scott Wilkinson (01:02:45):
640 nanometers is 640 nanometers. It's not red. It's only red when it's

Leo Laporte (01:02:50):
Into our brain. It's a red, but it's not right. It's not V red <laugh>

Scott Wilkinson (01:02:54):
Well, I don't to, no, I need to do some research into, into what digital cameras can capture.

Leo Laporte (01:03:02):
Maybe they're saying that normally you don't ever see that. Cuz a monitor can't go there. Right? I'd like to know if that's what they mean though.

Scott Wilkinson (01:03:11):
That's a good question. I that's a very good question. I will, I will look into that.

Leo Laporte (01:03:15):
Sorry. I just had some questions. That's all.

Scott Wilkinson (01:03:19):
That's fine. Thank

Leo Laporte (01:03:20):
You Scott. <Laugh> my pleasure. Have a great day.

Scott Wilkinson (01:03:23):
The El next week house hunting,

Leo Laporte (01:03:25):
Hunting. Good luck. Why? Hey, how are you today? It's me. Mica Sergeant

Mikah Sargent (01:03:34):
<Laugh> and me Leo

Leo Laporte (01:03:36):
LA part. And it's time. I bet you, 90% of the people listening would not know they go, oh, Leo's there. Yeah. Right. Leo, Mica Tech Guys, two. That means double your pleasure. Double your fun and double your geekiness. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo is the phone number? (888) 827-5536 to free from a name. Actually. Let me ask Kim, Kim, did you dial 88, 88. Ask Leo and Micah. And did it work? Oh man. I went out and made coffee instead. Much more important.

Mikah Sargent (01:04:06):
Gotta keep you fueled. I understand. I'll do,

Leo Laporte (01:04:08):
I'll do that now. Now you can dial it in a more caffeinated fashion. I, my contention is it would work, but it may be, you know, your mind, you

Mikah Sargent (01:04:16):
Might also be telling the phone system, Hey, here's the extension I'm trying to dial

Leo Laporte (01:04:20):
The phone system might go. Yeah. I don't know what it would do. It might say, oh, you don't wanna talk to Leo. Talk to Micah. Maybe there's a

Mikah Sargent (01:04:26):
Baby filter. Like there's an infant. Who's holding onto your phone typing all these extra keys. So it just doesn't. It does ignore them. Like you're suggesting

Leo Laporte (01:04:33):
In the old days you wouldn't remember this, there was an operator and you would say, did

Mikah Sargent (01:04:40):
You act, were you around in operator days? No, I remember that.

Leo Laporte (01:04:42):
Okay. Give me Micah. And the operator would be sitting in front of a giant board with a lot of holes and plugs in, would plug your phone into Micah's phone and make a single wire going from my phone to your phone,

Mikah Sargent (01:04:56):
The, the start of programming. Can

Leo Laporte (01:04:57):
You believe it even worked? I know <laugh>. And in fact, if you look and we've, we've, we've shown these on some of our shows in, around, you know, the early days of the phone, I guess nineteen ten, nineteen, you'd see these giant towers with phone line thousands. How they all of phone lines on them. Cuz every subscriber need to have their own line pretty it's CRA all going into the central office and then they would connect the two crazy. It's a miracle. It worked at one point, by the way one of the phone companies per people said at this rate, if we keep at this rate, we're gonna have to come up with something because every woman in the world will be working in the phone as an operator working for us. <Laugh> we've gotta solve this. So they did, they came up with automated switching instead of a human doing it, but it was still switching. And then eventually digital of course, by the way, the test has successful. Yep.

Kim Schaffer (01:05:52):
It worked. I, I had to figure out the lettering for and Micah, but it

Leo Laporte (01:05:57):
Worked 88, 88 ask Leo and Micah, if you want to do it a little extra workout. Yeah. If you, if you don't mind, if your thumbs don't mind, call us. Thank you, Kim. You're welcome. I appreciate that. Tom is on the line from keen New Hampshire. Hi Tom.

Caller 3 (01:06:13):
Hi Leo. How's it going? You guys are way too much fun over there. <Laugh>

Leo Laporte (01:06:16):
I think so. I think so.

Caller 3 (01:06:19):
Something fun this way. Will you

Leo Laporte (01:06:20):
Join the fun? You're invited

Caller 3 (01:06:22):
That's right. Well thank you. I hope it get some ice cream and we can,

Leo Laporte (01:06:25):
I know

Caller 3 (01:06:28):
That was awesome. Ice cream. Like that was great.

Leo Laporte (01:06:29):
Isn't that cool?

Caller 3 (01:06:31):
Yeah. Yeah. It really is cool. I think it's cool.

Leo Laporte (01:06:33):
Literally. Ah, literally I get it. It's gonna be 81 degrees here later today. And so we want some ice cream. What can we do for you Tom?

Caller 3 (01:06:41):

Leo Laporte (01:06:42):
Is it 85 and keen? Really?

Caller 3 (01:06:44):
Yeah. 85, 86. Something like that today. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:06:47):

Caller 3 (01:06:47):

Leo Laporte (01:06:49):
I didn't know. You had such warm weather in New Hampshire. How

Caller 3 (01:06:52):
Nice. Yeah we do sometimes.

Leo Laporte (01:06:54):

Caller 3 (01:06:55):
Warms has been in a while. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:06:56):
Nice. What can I do for you today?

Caller 3 (01:06:59):
This week? I upgraded to gigabit internet. Oh,

Leo Laporte (01:07:03):
I'm so jealous. That's better than ice cream.

Caller 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah. Well almost when it works.

Leo Laporte (01:07:08):
Oh, so yeah, it doesn't matter how fast it is if it's not working, does it?

Caller 3 (01:07:13):
Well, I'm not sure if it's not working, I'm just not understanding what's happening. So, okay. I have an apple TV 4k, the latest one. Yep. Plugged into an internet table. Okay. Plugged into my route. And when I do the speed test on my TV, I get about 930 megabits down.

Leo Laporte (01:07:30):
Very nice.

Caller 3 (01:07:31):
And I'm like, okay. That's okay. I can that's

Leo Laporte (01:07:33):
That's more than okay. Cause even though you're supposedly getting a thousand megabits, right. Which is a gigabit, you're not really gonna get 1,930 out of the thousand 93%. That's pretty good. Pretty, pretty good.

Caller 3 (01:07:46):
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well the problem is on my iPhone, I've typically been getting about two 70 down

Leo Laporte (01:07:53):
Cause it's on wifi. No.

Caller 3 (01:07:55):
Right. But could it be, should it be about two thirds less?

Leo Laporte (01:07:59):

Caller 3 (01:08:01):
When I had 400, I'm paying 400 mega before mm-hmm <affirmative> and I was getting about two 70.

Leo Laporte (01:08:07):
So this is a very, this is a very common plane. And it is the case. You will not get gigabit because just cuz the iPhone can't do it. So wifi is already about 50% of nominal, maybe 60% of nominal. So even if you had a device that were capable of the fastest possible speeds on wifi, it wouldn't be more than 600 megabits, but then you also have the issue of what can the radio do on that device. And most phones don't have the fastest wifi because they don't need it. Right.

Caller 3 (01:08:41):
Cause using the latest iPhone in the 13 pro iPhone.

Leo Laporte (01:08:45):
Well, let me see here cuz we have, we have 10 gigabits here. Let me just do a speed test on my 12 pro max. I, I bet you it's gonna be around two or 300. I've never seen faster than that on a phone, to be honest with

Mikah Sargent (01:08:58):
You, what router do you use by

Leo Laporte (01:09:00):
The way?

Caller 3 (01:09:01):
It's a net. It's a net gear. Nighthawk.

Leo Laporte (01:09:03):
Yeah. Very nice.

Caller 3 (01:09:04):
Think a bit router. Yeah. I don't know which one brand which, which model it is, but it's the latest one. I got it. You know about a year and a half ago.

Leo Laporte (01:09:13):
So I'm running on a 12 I'd brought 10 gigabit symmetric. Although yeah. The, the ruckus wifi routers that we have are probably not 10 gigabits and my iPhone is 209 megabits down 252 megabits up, which tells you that I've got a lot of upstream.

Caller 3 (01:09:31):
Yeah. Yeah. I don't get close to that up at

Leo Laporte (01:09:34):
All. No you wouldn't. Unless you got what's called symmetric. Ours is symmetric. Right. But that's the point is even though I have capability of much faster, it's not gonna go that fast. Now you have a 13 Micah. Why don't you? I've

Mikah Sargent (01:09:45):
Got an iPhone 13 doing it here.

Caller 3 (01:09:48):

Mikah Sargent (01:09:48):

Leo Laporte (01:09:49):
I think this is really common. I don't think you're gonna get, which

Mikah Sargent (01:09:52):
Wifi are you using office. Do, do you care?

Leo Laporte (01:09:55):
Let me see. Are

Mikah Sargent (01:09:55):
They all the same? Does he have 'em all.

Leo Laporte (01:09:57):
I am on Twitter office. Yeah.

Mikah Sargent (01:09:58):
Okay, good. That we're on the same one.

Leo Laporte (01:10:00):
Guest might be a little faster. Let me switch over.

Mikah Sargent (01:10:01):
I'm getting 2 62 down. Okay.

Leo Laporte (01:10:03):
A little faster than me

Mikah Sargent (01:10:06):
And about 300 up.

Leo Laporte (01:10:08):
Okay. So you're on a newer phone getting a little better, but still that's not faster than what you're getting. Right Tom.

Caller 3 (01:10:14):
Right, right. I get about two 70 consistently down.

Leo Laporte (01:10:18):
I would love to see reviewers getting review the wifi speech. Cause I think nowadays, especially since we're getting faster 5g as well I think, and we, and many of us have pretty fast. I just think it's a, it's an economical thing. Yeah. That they don't and, and wifi radios are always gonna be a little slower. And I just don't think they're putting in the fastest radios. Yeah. I'm getting 2 54 on another. And

Mikah Sargent (01:10:42):
Tom, you're saying that you used to get higher speeds.

Leo Laporte (01:10:45):
Not on his phone. On his wired. I'm saying

Mikah Sargent (01:10:48):
Wired. It's about the same good that I just wanted confirm that

Caller 3 (01:10:51):
Speed down. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:10:52):
So it's just, it's just a limitation of the phone. I think there are somebody in the chat room saying they have a one plus eight T and they're able to get six, 10 down. So some phones, that's a, that's a new phone. Let me try in the pixel six and see what I'm, what I'm getting. As long as we're doing this. I it's my sense that companies don't put a lot of money in, on mobile devices, into fast wifi. They could, but they don't.

Caller 3 (01:11:19):
I, I knew it would be slow, but I didn't be that much. Didn't know the truth. Well, what

Leo Laporte (01:11:22):
Do you, what do you need to be faster for, to be honest with you?

Caller 3 (01:11:25):
I don't, well, I, well, I do a lot of streaming of internet and downloads of you podcast. Think of a lot of

Leo Laporte (01:11:33):
<Laugh> it's my fault. No, even if you're watching 4k, you've got plenty of speed for that. Yeah. Okay. This is interesting. Cuz the pixel six is faster on the same wifi network. Interesting. As my iPhone, it's four seventy one down 3 37 up. So it is a lot faster. I wonder

Mikah Sargent (01:11:48):
If I've got 

Leo Laporte (01:11:49):
It's a lot faster. So I think it's very phone specific. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> apple. There's

Caller 3 (01:11:53):

Leo Laporte (01:11:53):
Nothing you can do

Caller 3 (01:11:55):
Settings to change.

Leo Laporte (01:11:55):
No, no it's in the phone. It's the hardware in the phone. Okay. Okay. You know, but it's fast enough. You can watch 4k on there. It is. It's fast enough trust.

Caller 3 (01:12:03):
Most of the time I use my apple TV. Anyhow, it's just, you know it Monday morning downloading all your podcasts on the weekend. Thank you. <Laugh>

Leo Laporte (01:12:11):
Thank you. But even, even that speech should be enough. Remember a lot of the servers you're getting the data from aren't faster than a hundred or 200 megabits down. Right? You're faster with your gigabit. This is something a lot of people who get gigabit are a little disappointed to learn. What are you getting now?

Mikah Sargent (01:12:27):
I just turned off iCloud, private relay. I'm now getting 400 teams.

Leo Laporte (01:12:31):

Mikah Sargent (01:12:32):
And 3 35 up. Well that makes down and 3 35

Leo Laporte (01:12:35):
Up. Cause you were going through essentially going through a VPN with iCloud. Right? That goes through CloudFlare. So if you have that turned on, try turning that off. That's a good one. I will. Yes. Good idea. Micah

Caller 3 (01:12:46):
Trying. Remember what that setting is?

Mikah Sargent (01:12:47):
If you go into wifi, you tap on the little I icon for info. You'll see an option that says limit IP address tracking. You just wanna toggle that off. Excuse me. Toggle that off.

Caller 3 (01:12:57):

Leo Laporte (01:12:57):
That there. So you didn't, did you even know you had it on

Caller 3 (01:13:03):
Know? I

Leo Laporte (01:13:04):
Forgot that. I know. I probably, I forgot that I'm for privacy. That was a good, good thinking though. Yeah.

Caller 3 (01:13:07):
I, I have that on have on my wife's phone when she got her new se I made sure we turned that on for her.

Leo Laporte (01:13:13):
So now you have a balancing act. Do I want privacy? Yes. Going on higher speeds. And I still think

Caller 3 (01:13:18):
I want privacy. Thank you. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:13:20):
I still think turning megabits is more than enough to do most of the things you do.

Caller 3 (01:13:23):
Yes. Yeah. All right.

Leo Laporte (01:13:25):
Hey, good question though. Thank you, Tom. And an excellent, excellent catch Micah. Thank you. Turn off iCloud. Private relay. That makes a lot of sense. It's a VPN and it's going through a server at CloudFlare. Again. How do I do that?

Mikah Sargent (01:13:38):
You go into your wifi settings and the wifi that you're connected to. You'll see the little I icon for information, tap on that. And then where it says limit IP address tracking.

Leo Laporte (01:13:49):
Oh, that's what

Mikah Sargent (01:13:50):
It's called. That's iCloud

Leo Laporte (01:13:51):
Private IP address tracking. Okay. Now I'm gonna do a speed test. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number eight eighty eight, eight two seven. I'm sorry. Ask Leo and Micah <laugh> 8 8 8 8 2 7 5 5 3 6. Toll free from anywhere in the us or Canada website. Tech guide So it did not improve speed on my 12th. Oh, correct. Until 2 48 down. Interesting. Isn't that interesting? That was a good, good catch. Really good catch. Never thought of that. Excellent. You're ready to take over the Tech Guy show. Congratulations.

Mikah Sargent (01:14:34):
Thank you.

Leo Laporte (01:14:34):
Thank you. Yes. We've just been waiting for this.

Mikah Sargent (01:14:37):
There was the moment

Leo Laporte (01:14:38):
That was it. The moment when the Padawan becomes

Mikah Sargent (01:14:44):
Teacher can finally catch the, what is it? The fly out of the air. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:14:51):
With the chopsticks. Oh my goodness. How's the Python going?

Mikah Sargent (01:15:00):
I had to take a break.

Leo Laporte (01:15:02):
Your brain was hurting.

Mikah Sargent (01:15:03):
My brain was hurting. Well, no it's actually cuz I wanted to do some some thread networking stuff. Oh interesting. So I took a break on that so I could do some study on using a what is it called? NXP module that has thread and the latest versions of, of Bluetooth and, and all sorts of different fun stuff there with my raspberry pie. Cool. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:15:33):
So, so you're doing OT stuff.

Mikah Sargent (01:15:34):
Yeah. A little bit oft stuff.

Leo Laporte (01:15:37):
That's really cool.

Mikah Sargent (01:15:39):
All right. So I remembered that I have an iPhone 12 that I forgot because I use it as my camera. And so it just sits

Leo Laporte (01:15:47):
There. Oh, you could use that.

Mikah Sargent (01:15:49):
But the problem is the iPhone se if we had done that, yeah. Would've been about $130. And the iPhone 12 pro max that I have is going to be $300 to

Leo Laporte (01:16:06):
Replace the screen.

Mikah Sargent (01:16:07):

Leo Laporte (01:16:08):
Let me do the battery instead. Oh

Mikah Sargent (01:16:09):
Yeah. Let me check for the battery. That's a good idea. Oh, that's much cheaper. Yeah. That's like 70 bucks. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> okay. Yeah. That's what we'll do. We'll replace the battery.

Leo Laporte (01:16:17):
It doesn't matter. Right?

Mikah Sargent (01:16:18):
Right. Replace. Yeah. The whole point. Yeah. The whole point is just yeah. To do the process.

Leo Laporte (01:16:23):
We might actually need to do that one.

Mikah Sargent (01:16:24):
That's true for that one. Oh, that's a good point. Perfect. That's

Leo Laporte (01:16:27):
Well, we know you don't need a new screen. Oh, I need a new raspberry pie, but I can't get one.

Mikah Sargent (01:16:40):
I, I lucked out that I got one before everything kind of happened.

Leo Laporte (01:16:43):
I have a three, so it's pretty old.

Mikah Sargent (01:16:45):
I've got I, I got it from what is it can kit. And it came with, you know, a little case and everything.

Leo Laporte (01:16:53):
Yeah. I, I have a great case, which do you have a four?

Mikah Sargent (01:16:57):
Yeah. I've got a four.

Leo Laporte (01:16:58):
Oh, well you should look at this case. You can have my case.

Leo Laporte (01:17:02):
Ah, you need case

Mikah Sargent (01:17:14):
It's got a case,

Leo Laporte (01:17:16):
But if you got a, with a case better

Leo Laporte (01:17:17):
One, not as good as this case, this is a really good case, But the connectors don't work on the three. So I think it's, it requires a four. This case

Leo Laporte (01:17:45):
Turns your raspberry pie

Leo Laporte (01:17:48):

Leo Laporte (01:17:50):

Mikah Sargent (01:17:51):
Oh my God.

Leo Laporte (01:17:54):
Two CI. Oh, that's amazing. Isn't that great has built in fan.

Mikah Sargent (01:17:58):
It has a better fan than the one I have. I, I have a fan, but it's really small. Good.

Leo Laporte (01:18:02):
And then you, or you could have this one,

Mikah Sargent (01:18:05):
It's a Mount

Leo Laporte (01:18:08):

Leo Laporte (01:18:10):
Has Mike B heard about Wealthfront? Have I told you, man, you know, wealth, front's looking better and better. Isn't it as the stock market crashes as you're did you put Bitcoin in your 401k? Yeah. But you're real happy about that. Aren't you, there is a better way. Look, I understand. It's really fun, you know, to say, oh look, all the money I made on AMC or a game spot or something like that. But really the way to build wealth is not to go out there and, and gamble in the stock market or in cryptocurrencies. It's a, it's a wild ride. It could be really fun, but the risk of losing it all also means it should be enjoyed in moderation. Like I dunno, casino, gambling, eating questionable street food. If you're playing the market, please do the right thing. Do me a favor, stash your savings into a place like Wealthfront. Wealthfront has a ton of data. You know, I was just thinking this the other day,

Leo Laporte (01:19:10):
If you had timed it just right and bought, you know, if you knew that, oh, I should buy this meme stock Thursday at 5:00 PM and sell it by all means by, by Monday at 9:00 AM. Because by Tuesday it's crashed. But it, that little window that's called market timing. Right. But how do you know, how do you know when the perfect window is when to buy and when to sell wealth has a ton of data that shows that time in the market. Almost always beats timing the market. It's one of the reasons I'm watching, you know, my retirement savings go down a little bit, but I feel good because I've been in it a long time. It's gone up a lot. I know it will come back and in years to come will go up again. You want a globally diversified portfolio. Wealth, front portfolios are automatically optimized to hit the goals you set, whether you're setting, saving to send the kids to college or buy a home or for your retirement, you choose the risk level.

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Caller 4 (01:22:10):
Hey, good afternoon guys. Good afternoon. I know you're not a big fan of outlook and I'm at the point where I'm not a fan of it either.

Leo Laporte (01:22:18):
<Laugh> now you know why I'm not a fan. Yeah. What's going on with your outlook.

Caller 4 (01:22:22):
I've been using it for geez. Must be 25, 30 years

Leo Laporte (01:22:25):
Now. Well, and, and honestly, that's of course that's why, I mean, people use it in business. It is nice. One app does calendar address book and all your email. It's a good email package. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a fan for technical reasons. Not for user reasons. I, I just don't like the idea of everything stored in one big blob.

Caller 4 (01:22:46):
I'm upset for user reasons.

Leo Laporte (01:22:48):
Oh, it wasn't matter.

Caller 4 (01:22:49):
Yeah. So I've got an old desktop, which is fine. It's, it's upgraded within SSD and it had mirroring drives and plenty of power and plenty of memory and all that. And I was running windows seven until I decided that I better upgrade the windows 10. So I upgraded the windows 10, but I'd been having problems with outlook for the last couple of years where it would either not download my emails from the at and T server, which is as you know, Yahoo or it would download 'em in giant batches, early in the morning and late at night, rather than in real time. So I, I bought, well, actually I played with it for about six months and I got so frustrated that I took it to a professional computer shop that builds computers and services, software, and all that. They couldn't get windows 10 to load, which I hadn't been able to do either. And they also couldn't get outlook to work,

Leo Laporte (01:23:36):
But they're professionals.

Caller 4 (01:23:38):
I know, I know. And I am a an intelligent amateur, but I couldn't make it work. So I brought the box home and I kept playing with windows 10 and I finally got that to load. So windows 10 is fine. I hate it, but it works. <Laugh> I still couldn't get outlook to work properly. So I bought a fresh brand new copy of outlook, downloaded it from the Microsoft website. Still couldn't get it to work. Had four sessions online with the geek squad from best buy and then took it into the geek squad. It's been there three times for a total of about five weeks. One guy decided that the thing to do was to set up a new outlook file so that I've got my old outlook and my new outlook. <Laugh> the new outlook started downloading emails immediately. Ah, I think this is great.

Caller 4 (01:24:26):
It's working. Yeah. So it sat there and I've got like 300,000 emails on the at and T server. Oh, left over from when I was working before I retired some of my need to keep for forensic reasons. Some of my keep cuz I just haven't cleared 'em yet. Okay. but so they, they downloaded and everything was working fine. I picked up the box. I brought it home, started scrolling through 'em just to see if everything downloaded. There's a 14 month gap at one point with no emails. I know they're on the at and T server cuz I can see 'em but they're not an outlook. There's a three month gap. There's a three and a half week. I took it back to them and they played with it for three weeks.

Leo Laporte (01:25:00):
They must love seeing you coming. <Laugh> <laugh>

Caller 4 (01:25:03):
I'm getting my money's worth.

Leo Laporte (01:25:05):
So let me ask you a couple of questions. First of all, it sounds like you're using the old pop three protocol instead of IMAP.

Caller 4 (01:25:14):
It's IMAP now.

Leo Laporte (01:25:15):
Okay. Yeah. That's very important because everybody now is IMAP pop three was the old one where you download all the emails. IMAP is simply a view of the server. It will cash emails, but it will not download them. So you may have a different expectation because from your days as a pop user, it does not download the email. It merely gives you a view into them. The server holds all the email and you can see what's going on. It's almost like web based mail. Right?

Caller 4 (01:25:49):
Okay. Let me give you the yes, but the yes, but is that other than that 14 month gap, the three month gap and the three week gap, the emails that have downloaded, including the ones that's downloaded since I last picked it up well, two times ago when I picked it up, those emails are on my hard

Leo Laporte (01:26:06):
Drive. Yeah. They're cash online. They're not you don't again, IMAP does not download email it cashes it, but doesn't guarantee that the full set is there. So the thing to check is to use the web based email interface that Yahoo at and T gives you to see if that 14 month gap is there. I bet it is.

Caller 4 (01:26:26):
Well, if I, if I go directly to the at and T server log into my at and T account log into their server, I can see all those emails. Yes. On their server. Of course you can. I just, I don't have 'em on my hard drive, which is where I need 'em

Leo Laporte (01:26:38):
You won't ever get them on your hard drive. That's not how IMAP works. Do you want to download all your email then? There's other things you might be able to do, but that's not how IMAP works. IMAP is just like the web interface, a view into the IMAP server. Now let me see if there's a way this is not the normal way to do it. If there's a way to download all the IMAP email cuz that's, you know, not normally what you do give

Caller 4 (01:27:09):
You the other. Yes. But

Leo Laporte (01:27:10):

Caller 4 (01:27:12):
Well, yes, but when I'm looking at outlook on my computer, I don't see all these emails. When I look at 'em on the, at, at and T server. I do see all the emails.

Leo Laporte (01:27:21):
Right? Well they should, they should show up as you should be able to see 'em because right. You're looking at a view.

Caller 4 (01:27:28):
I can't, I can't see 'em which means I can't put 'em into phone.

Leo Laporte (01:27:30):
Well, I'm wondering how they, what they did to,

Caller 4 (01:27:32):
I can't delete them.

Leo Laporte (01:27:33):
Yeah. I'm wondering because you've come to them with this request that you download them. I'm wondering if they've changed the behavior of outlook and that by the way would be probably why outlook out of the box worked. Okay. So there, there are ways to tell down IAP to download it all like with special IMAP mail backup software. That's what I would probably do is get, there are programs out there that are designed to down. I don't think outlook will do this, but there are programs that will download all your IMAP email in a format that can be read including PST, which is the outlook format, but that's not what IMAP does. And so if your IMAP has been weirdly configured, it may also be there's a limitation that at and T puts on getting, what did you say? 300 gigabytes of email. They may just say, well, yeah, it would take forever for us to, to see to, for you to see all of that. So I would look in your I outlook settings, whoever these professionals were, obviously didn't know how email works. I would look in the IMAP settings, make sure for instance that you're looking at all folders, not just subscribed folders, there's a bunch of little arcane settings. And if you want to download, 'em all get a downloader, not outlook. Leo Laport, the Tech Guy, hold on a sec.

Leo Laporte (01:28:59):
So let's see somebody saying,

Caller 4 (01:29:02):
Can you, can you still hear me?

Leo Laporte (01:29:04):
Yep. We just, we just had to break, but I'm still here.

Caller 4 (01:29:07):
Okay. Yeah. All right. So the other question is this desktop computer, although it works fine in, in every respect except outlook, it's getting old. So I'm thinking about going to the dark side and buying a Mac. I've been told, cuz I'm retired now. I don't have to use an Intel machine. I don't have to use windows. I've been told that the apple mail software will have no problem downloading all 300,000 of my emails onto my own hard drive. If you,

Leo Laporte (01:29:34):
Well, I don't know if that's true or not. That's true. I don't know if that's true or not. So first of all, you don't have to use the apple program. You there's lots of different email programs out there, apple, in fact, on the Macintosh, there's a variety of very good programs. Virtually no IMAP program in the world will download email. Again. It will only give you a view of it. I'm puzzled as to why it won't see that gap. And I suspect that may be more an at and T thing. They may not actually, they may have expired it for instance, they may say, well, it's too old. I'm not gonna show it to you, even though it's still there. Right. so it's not an issue of the amount of mail because you know, I don't want you to go out and buy a Mac, hoping that you're gonna be able to down hold 300,000 messages, IMAP. Doesn't do that. And I bet you anything at and T doesn't want you to do that. That's the huge burden on their server. So there almost certainly that's the limitation.

Caller 4 (01:30:30):
Is there a way to somehow copy all those emails off their server?

Leo Laporte (01:30:34):
Yeah. Yeah. There are IMAP downloader programs.

Caller 4 (01:30:38):

Leo Laporte (01:30:39):
That will, that will download it all. But the, but outlook, unless, and this is my concern is it might, you know, in order to get this to try to happen, they might have fiddled with the outlook settings that might be where some of your issues lie. Cuz the out of the box outlook sounded like it worked. Okay. 

Caller 4 (01:30:55):
No it didn't, it didn't, it it's, it's been trouble for two years old, old software, 2010 outlook, new software, 2019 outlook. Neither one of them is. So

Leo Laporte (01:31:06):
Just it just as an experiment, you could try a different email program just to see if you can see this on windows. You know, I, I don't know if Thunderbird's still a yeah, I guess they still, yeah, still out there, this is a free open source email program designed for IMAP that should give you the same view you get in the web view. It's not a downloader. So that's, I mean, if you want to download the stuff from IMAP, that's different. 

Caller 4 (01:31:36):
Yeah. I really want these emails on my hard drive. I don't want them in the cloud or on somebody's server only. I need to have 'em on my

Leo Laporte (01:31:43):
Eye. Yeah. So that's, what's changed in the world is now we use IMAP and it, and it does not normally download that. So you need a program like mail store or something. There are a number of programs that will do this, that will download it. That will archive it. You could, you certainly can do it. There will be the issue of at and T you know, if you try to do this from Gmail, for instance, they'll say, okay, but you can have 10 megabytes a day, you know, they'll they don't want you to, to hammer their servers. So

Caller 4 (01:32:15):
I would just assume get off their server and, and say goodbye

Leo Laporte (01:32:18):
To 'em. Well, that's another reason why they may not. They may not, but nobody would let you do that. So you can get one of these downloaders it may take a period of time, maybe months to get all of that email because they may rate limit you. I think thunder Bo I think the first thing to do is get Thunderbird. It's free. See if you can see that missing gap, I suspect you'll be able to, and then you need a program that will download all of those emails from that IMAP server to store as an archive. There certainly are programs. That'll do that. And again, you may have to have the cooperation of at and T cuz that's a lot of email,

Caller 4 (01:32:56):
Any names for those programs?

Leo Laporte (01:32:57):
Mail store somebody's saying is a good one. There's one called I think IMAP, downloader. I don't, I've never used any of these, so I don't know from bit recover. IMAP, email downloader. Okay. There's a few. You might try, you might try this one for bit recover just to see if it'll do it. None of these are free. I don't think. Hey Johnny jet.

Johnny Jet (01:33:19):

Leo Laporte (01:33:21):
How are you? My friend.

Johnny Jet (01:33:23):
Much better. Thank you.

Leo Laporte (01:33:25):
I was worried about you.

Johnny Jet (01:33:27):
Thank you for wording.

Leo Laporte (01:33:29):
Okay. Hold on. Here we go. He's the traveling guru, Johnny jet. Every week. He joins us to talk about traveling better with technology. Johnny is his website. What are you wearing? What's your hat? Johnny jet.

Johnny Jet (01:33:44):
Oh, this is an old school flipper gram. Do you remember these guys?

Leo Laporte (01:33:47):
Oh yeah. You mean like the the Kodak? What did you call those? No. Do you press the button? No.

Johnny Jet (01:33:53):
No. They were like trying to compete with Instagram.

Leo Laporte (01:33:55):
Oh Flipagram. But,

Johnny Jet (01:33:57):
But they, what they were able to do is they had music royalties. So you could put like a 32nd clip to any

Leo Laporte (01:34:03):
Song. Are they at a business now?

Johnny Jet (01:34:04):
Oh yeah,

Leo Laporte (01:34:05):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I know a person, good friend of ours, Christina Warren, who probably buy that hat from mm-hmm <affirmative> she collects GI stuff from companies that are now outta business. Really? Yeah. I'll hook you up <laugh> unless you to her, unless you're attached to the hat for some reason. <Laugh> I'll tell you what she may look at it and go. I don't remember flip Agram I don't. No,

Johnny Jet (01:34:23):
She remembers it. Oh, okay. Guaranteed. Okay. Guaranted yeah, they were pretty big for

Leo Laporte (01:34:27):
A little bit. It was Instagram for dolphins

Johnny Jet (01:34:30):
And I, you know, I, I had a bunch of followers on there too. That would hurt when they went out. But

Leo Laporte (01:34:34):
Anyway, yeah. That's welcome to the modern world. Yeah. So Johnny, where you been these days and what's going on? Are you traveling? Oh,

Johnny Jet (01:34:41):
I was sick last week. No, which is why I was not on, I actually ended up at urgent care and I got in right at the end of where my segment would've been. So I heard Micah on there replacing me, which he did a great job.

Leo Laporte (01:34:53):
Yeah. Micah, the the airplane guy.

Johnny Jet (01:34:56):
Yes. Have

Leo Laporte (01:34:56):
Geek. He said, anytime he wasn't intentionally replacing you, but he did say anytime you need a replacement for Johnny, I'd be glad to step in. But that I have to only with your permission, Johnny,

Johnny Jet (01:35:07):
Of course. Are you kidding me, Mike? Great. A couple articles on my site. Yeah. He, he saw, I don't know. It's gonna get

Leo Laporte (01:35:13):
Confusing. I, I he'll have to change his name. It's you know, that's sag after rules cannot. There can be only one. Micah. That's true. Anyway. Well, I'm glad you're feeling better. Was it COVID

Johnny Jet (01:35:23):
Much better? No, no. I, you know, I tested negative. Oh, okay. You know, we went down to, we went down to San Diego to the Carlsbad flower fields, went to Legoland. My son was the first kid to sit in that new F one Ferrari Lego land. Ooh leg. They built fun. And, and then he went to a birthday party in a bouncy house and they got sick.

Leo Laporte (01:35:43):
Those bouncy houses are germ magnets. You know, the only thing worse, the ball thing that you jump in. Oh, pets ball pits covered with saliva. <Laugh>

Johnny Jet (01:35:54):
So they were sick. Two days later, I was sick. You got it. And then I

Leo Laporte (01:35:58):
Was, it's funny. We forget with all the attention on COVID. Yeah. There's still colds, flu other things, so, well, I'm glad you're feeling better. We missed you. Yeah. And we

Johnny Jet (01:36:06):
Are, we're going away for a couple months.

Leo Laporte (01:36:08):

Johnny Jet (01:36:09):
Actually, no,

Leo Laporte (01:36:10):
You're not allowed. No. Where are you going for?

Johnny Jet (01:36:11):
No, but I, but I will be calling in every

Leo Laporte (01:36:13):
Week from Canada, all over, all over

Johnny Jet (01:36:18):
All different places. You're going on. The grand Canada will be one of them. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:36:22):
For a couple of months you'll be gone. Yeah. That's exciting. Are you excited?

Johnny Jet (01:36:28):
Yes, definitely. How fun it's been a while.

Leo Laporte (01:36:31):

Johnny Jet (01:36:32):
You know? Yeah. So, you know, COVID kind of changes things a little bit because you know, God forbid we do get sick, you know, you gotta figure out plan B. I mean, you always have to have a plan B, but you gotta have a solid plan B these days.

Leo Laporte (01:36:42):
Well, you have mentioned in the past urgent care apps and so forth, that help you travel

Johnny Jet (01:36:48):
Insurance. Definitely.

Leo Laporte (01:36:49):
Yeah. Yeah. All that stuff.

Johnny Jet (01:36:50):
Yeah. Yeah. So but anyway, so next in a couple weeks also is Memorial day, which is gonna be a huge don't AAA hasn't come out with AAA hasn't come out with their numbers, but I'm sure they're gonna be through the roof. Trippit came out with theirs this week saying that may Friday, May 27th is gonna be the busiest day, the airports, they also gave the times like you wanna stay away from SFO on that Friday, between eight and 10:00 AM lax between eight and 1:00 PM. JFK eight and 7:00 PM. 8:00 AM to 7:00 PM.

Leo Laporte (01:37:22):
And so how do they, they know this from historical, but this is not

Johnny Jet (01:37:25):
For people. No, from people's bookings. Oh,

Leo Laporte (01:37:27):
From the bookings people

Johnny Jet (01:37:28):
Forward their itineraries to trip it. Oh, I get that's one of the best things about trip it cuz you do plans at trip it. Yeah. And then they know what, where people, when or people are traveling and where, and they also have the type, you know, their top destinations that their travelers are going to Orlando, Denver, New York, Vegas, London. And and then also hopper came out in, in the new number saying how much average trips are $383 is the round trip right now for summer, which is 34% up from 2019. So, but the one silver lining or not silver lining, but international travel is only up 2% from 2019. The average round trip trip for the summer is 900. So if you're thinking about going somewhere, Europe or international might be the way to save some money. Especially on hotels. Hotels are crazy expensive right now and rent cars. And by the way, I rented a car for our trip next week.

Leo Laporte (01:38:21):
Well you were able to get one. I mean, that was the big problem before is the rental car companies that sold all their cars? Correct? Is it easier now? Is it kind of, it is

Johnny Jet (01:38:29):
Easier. There's some markets where it's difficult. So the trick is for rent cars. Whenever you make your reservation, book, your car rental right away and then keep checking, check it, you know, a month out a week out a couple days out

Leo Laporte (01:38:42):
Because in the words of Jerry Seinfeld, you know how to take a reservation. You just don't know how to keep a reservation. <Laugh>

Johnny Jet (01:38:50):
Well, that's not even what I'm talking about. Oh, I'm actually talking about for lower prices because a lot of times the car rentals will lower their price.

Leo Laporte (01:38:56):
Oh they,

Johnny Jet (01:38:57):
Yeah. Then you just lock in that new rate and then cancel your old one. Nice. But yeah, that's another concern you have to do. You have to worry about is them not having a car because when people keep their cars longer, when they, when they say they're going to, there's nothing that car rentals can do. So you're gonna need to plan backup plan there too. And I don't have one right now. You gotta be honest. So I will be I'll be shelling out some big money if my car rental's not there.

Leo Laporte (01:39:23):
Yeah. Well how would you get around? You'd have to you Uber it everywhere or

Johnny Jet (01:39:27):
No, I mean, we're going, we're going all over. So I mean, I need a car rental.

Leo Laporte (01:39:32):
You gotta have one.

Johnny Jet (01:39:33):
Yeah. I'll just, I'll just like beg my brother to give me one of his cars. <Laugh> he'll be like, oh, we have one car.

Leo Laporte (01:39:39):
Oh, you're going to connect ticket. First.

Johnny Jet (01:39:41):
One of the places we'll be

Leo Laporte (01:39:42):
DC. I take, I, you tell me these clues. I have a steel trap. Mind

Johnny Jet (01:39:47):
You do? That's kidding. We gotta go see my dad. It's been, it's been too long for my dad. He's gotta hug his grandkids. And he keeps telling me every day and so, Aw, that's our first

Leo Laporte (01:39:56):
Stop. So how long do you stay there?

Johnny Jet (01:39:59):
We'll be there for we're gonna see him for a few days. Then we gotta go out and see travel and then we'll go back and see him.

Leo Laporte (01:40:05):
And then you go up to Toronto for the other fam.

Johnny Jet (01:40:08):
I'm just, I'll just, why don't I just give you my whole 18?

Leo Laporte (01:40:10):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I like figuring it out. I like the clues and the other thing Johnny will do. And if you follow him on Instagram, Johnny jet or Twitter is he'll post a picture of an airport for instance, and say, where do you think I am now? And I always like to do that. I always think that's

Johnny Jet (01:40:24):
Fine. I have to be more active on that. Which I've been slacking lately.

Leo Laporte (01:40:27):
Hey, it's back to work, buddy.

Johnny Jet (01:40:29):
Yeah, it is. How much time we have

Leo Laporte (01:40:31):
Two minutes. 10 seconds not. Oh good.

Johnny Jet (01:40:33):
So one of the things I did the last couple weeks was I have old, I, I found all these old photos going through my my boxes. And so I, I don't want to have all these paper photos. And this is, you know, some of my crisis memories from my traveling with my mom to Europe, my first trips. Oh. And and, and growing up. And so I asked rich Durrow who his, who was filled in for you before? Yes. Where

Leo Laporte (01:40:59):
K TLA Tech Guy. Yes.

Johnny Jet (01:41:01):
Yep. And he said, scan my Good.

Leo Laporte (01:41:05):

Johnny Jet (01:41:05):
Good. So I sent them, I sent them over to them and you know, if you only have like 50 photos, you do it yourself. But when you have hundreds or thousands, you set on these guys and their service is really incredible. You could, they actually sent me a video. They gave me their concierge service, full disclosure. They upgraded me on that. I paid for the other and they sent me a video of my photos being actually scanned. That's cool. And it just that's cool. So and you know, with these fires this past week in Laguna, yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:41:31):
I know you want everything digital. I, we did this a while ago, my sister brought all the slides in. We had slides, we had tons of, you know, Ko, Kodak, carousel, dozens of them filled with slides. And she brought 'em to a local place in Providence. They clean 'em up, they scan 'em really nicely. And now we have it and everybody's got a copy now and it's online as well. So that it's great. So we all have all those family photos. Yeah. You definitely wanna do that.

Johnny Jet (01:41:58):
Yeah, definitely. So and I, and have old videos too, that I need to start doing, cuz God forbid there's a flood or a fire or someone steals my stuff, which you know, they gotta get by our dog. But 

Leo Laporte (01:42:10):
There's also scan cafe. They do it. They'll they'll send you a box

Johnny Jet (01:42:14):
And you just okay. And

Leo Laporte (01:42:16):
Just stuff as many as

Johnny Jet (01:42:17):
You can, but that's what these guys did.

Leo Laporte (01:42:18):
Yeah. I love that idea. Yeah. <Laugh>, I'm always nervous about putting these only copies though. These family photos in the mail. So sometimes, and this is my sister did. If you find somebody local, you can bring it to that might give you some peace of mind too. Right? Agreed. Yep. Johnny That's his website. Get the newsletter there. That's free. There's also all sorts of nice tools and great articles. He's also on Twitter, Instagram at Johnny jet. Thank you,

Johnny Jet (01:42:44):
JJ. Hey, thank you.

Leo Laporte (01:42:46):
Safe travels.

Johnny Jet (01:42:47):

Leo Laporte (01:42:48):
Too. So you're leaving before the next show.

Johnny Jet (01:42:51):
No, I'll be here.

Leo Laporte (01:42:53):
When, when is the departure?

Johnny Jet (01:42:56):
I can't even tell you.

Leo Laporte (01:42:58):
You don't know it's

Johnny Jet (01:42:59):
No, I do know you're

Leo Laporte (01:43:00):
Leaving on Memorial day between

Johnny Jet (01:43:02):

Leo Laporte (01:43:03):
Tickets, 8:00 PM.

Johnny Jet (01:43:04):
I bought these tickets in August business class. Oh smart man for 20,000 miles a piece, you know, much it costs with the same flight for next week. It's 50,000 miles for coach. Oh

Leo Laporte (01:43:15):
Yeah. 20,000 is not even coach. That's right? Yeah. I

Johnny Jet (01:43:19):
Got, I got 20,000 for business life flat seats. That's great. These were, they're now 50,000 for coach.

Leo Laporte (01:43:25):
Oh, that's great.

Johnny Jet (01:43:26):
So, you know, when I, and I, and I know I went on and I told people, you know, this is the time to use your miles book 'em and you know, I'm, I'm already, I'm still looking at right.

Leo Laporte (01:43:35):
You're smart.

Johnny Jet (01:43:36):
Right before I went on, I'm booking right now, looking for Christmas, trying to use my miles.

Leo Laporte (01:43:39):
Yeah. Lisa and I have decided we need to do we're going on that cruise in July, but we need to do something in the fall. So we're trying to think of what to do.

Johnny Jet (01:43:48):
Well, Europe is a great time.

Leo Laporte (01:43:50):
I'm not, I think we're gonna stay in the us until, until the all clear siren. <Laugh>

Johnny Jet (01:43:56):
Okay. Well, listen, I, I, I, I

Leo Laporte (01:44:00):

Johnny Jet (01:44:00):

Leo Laporte (01:44:00):
Understand that I'm nervous understand I've got so many trips canceled. Three different trips were canceled cuz of C that I'm reluctant. We do have a cruise in the spring of next year in Europe, the Mediterranean. So that'll be fun. And then we did a river boat cruise to the German. As you know, Christmas markets after they've shut down, that's gonna be a fun one. <Laugh> and

Johnny Jet (01:44:24):
Well, I would do a river cruise at Dal valley in Portugal.

Leo Laporte (01:44:28):
Oh, that sounds fun.

Johnny Jet (01:44:29):
September, October. I've done it in October and it

Leo Laporte (01:44:30):
Is yeah. Do it in the fall. Okay. That's it. Maybe we'll do that. A

Johnny Jet (01:44:33):

Leo Laporte (01:44:33):
Cruise isn't as bad as an ocean cruise. You can get off.

Johnny Jet (01:44:36):
Definitely. Yeah. I, I, I love river cruises before that. I mean multiple reasons. One is that you don't have to worry about sinking, cuz if you do, you can just get out and walk across the river. Right? In most of these places and that's in you know, whenever they do the mustard drills, they

Leo Laporte (01:44:51):
Always say, you don't even get seasick.

Johnny Jet (01:44:53):
They say, if it happens, don't let go of your champagne drink or

Leo Laporte (01:44:56):
Go champagne. That's pretty funny. And plus

Johnny Jet (01:45:00):
You have wifi, although it's it is patchy. But some ships are

Leo Laporte (01:45:04):
Portugal in Spain, the Doro river valley, 11 days from Porto to Lisbon. Okay. Portugal. You think's a good one.

Johnny Jet (01:45:13):
It used to be one of the best kept secrets Portugal was. But now, I mean, actually there's an article today in the LA times. I think it is saying how, you know, so many Californians are moving to Portugal because it's so much cheaper.

Leo Laporte (01:45:25):
I know that's where 

Johnny Jet (01:45:27):
And they're not happy. A lot of the Portugal, Portuguese are not happy.

Leo Laporte (01:45:29):
No they're California CA us. Yeah. that's where Clayton and Clayton went with his family. Huh? All right. So I'm gonna look at this, the the 11 days from port that would be fun in the fall. Huh? All right. Yeah,

Johnny Jet (01:45:47):
I would, I would, I would definitely check that out. All right. And then go to like middle east and then to like bounce over to Bangkok. We did that one

Leo Laporte (01:45:55):
Time. Yes. See we, we lost all our Asia stuff. You know, the SS opening up.

Johnny Jet (01:45:59):
It's opening up. Japan's opening up by the way I know is it's one of your readers they're opening up in a, they're saying June or July.

Leo Laporte (01:46:05):
No kidding.

Johnny Jet (01:46:06):
Yep. And the P the prime minister of New Zealand was just in Japan though. She just tested positive for COVID yesterday. And also the governor of high Hawaii was just in Japan, trying to woo travelers back. Cuz they need them.

Leo Laporte (01:46:21):
Johnny have a wonderful time. We'll see you next week.

Johnny Jet (01:46:24):
All right. Take care.

Leo Laporte (01:46:25):
Yes. Ben voo says there's some great deals now going to Keve <laugh> ah, no, no, no, not got that. Thank you, Johnny.

Johnny Jet (01:46:35):

Leo Laporte (01:46:35):
Ya. See ya. Bye. Yeah. Clayton and Natalie are in Portugal. I think. What is the extradition? <Laugh> me see us Portugal. Extradition treaty Asking for a friend. Leo Laporte D Tech Guy, Mikah Sargents here as well. Taking your calls. 88 88. Ask Leo. Jim is on the line from Atlanta, Georgia. Hello, Jim.

Caller 5 (01:47:15):
Hello, Leo and Mica. How are you

Leo Laporte (01:47:18):
Guys doing? Oh, we are great. How are you

Caller 5 (01:47:21):
Doing? Good. Doing good. I got, oh, first of all. Hey, Portugal is gorgeous. Oh, I

Leo Laporte (01:47:29):
Can't wait. I've never been.

Caller 5 (01:47:30):
Yeah. Yeah. It's really spectacular. Mm. So I got some questions. I gotta get a new monitor because we're updating our security protocols at work and I can't use my personal computer anymore, so I have to,

Leo Laporte (01:47:47):
Oh yeah. That's yeah, that's right. That's what they're doing these days.

Caller 5 (01:47:51):
Yep. I've been using my iMac pro, so I got the nice 5k monitor when I'm editing Adobe, premier mm-hmm <affirmative> and so I just ordered, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to use my, the company provided MacBook pro and I just ordered,

Leo Laporte (01:48:12):
So you need a nice big monitor.

Caller 5 (01:48:15):
Yeah. Yeah. Well,

Leo Laporte (01:48:17):
Cause you're spoiled. You're used to that 5k

Caller 5 (01:48:20):
I'm used to. Yeah, well I'm used to the $35,000 reference monitors at work.

Leo Laporte (01:48:28):
Oh, do, are you a video editor for a living?

Caller 5 (01:48:32):
Yes. Oh,

Leo Laporte (01:48:32):
I remember we've talked before Jim. I know who you are. All right.

Caller 5 (01:48:36):
We have, yeah,

Leo Laporte (01:48:37):
We have talked before. We won't mention any any companies in Atlanta, Georgia that you might or might not have

Caller 5 (01:48:45):
Any large cable company, any

Leo Laporte (01:48:46):
That we won't mention any of those. Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:48:49):
Okay. Yeah. There you go. I'm actually working from home, right. So

Leo Laporte (01:48:55):
They're making you come back to work where you, you were working at home for a while, right?

Caller 5 (01:48:59):
Yeah. We've been working from home since March of 2020, right? Yeah. And yeah, they, they want us to all come back.

Leo Laporte (01:49:07):
So does everybody, right? Yeah. And they're saying come back, but you can't bring your iMac with you. You gotta use our, the laptop. We provide you, which for video editing. Yeah. That's odd. Well, it's just not a happy, not gonna be a happy thing. What kind of, what kind of MacBook did they give you?

Caller 5 (01:49:25):
It's a MacBook, well, it's a 2019 MacBook pro.

Leo Laporte (01:49:28):
So it's the I nine 16 inch.

Caller 5 (01:49:32):
Yes. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:49:33):
Yeah. That's a decent, it's a decent, you know, before it, it was the Intel era, but it was, but it's pretty decent. That was their fastest they ever had made. So what do you need, what do you need? Do you want to get a monitor for it?

Caller 5 (01:49:45):
Yeah, so I ordered just yesterday. I ordered a view Sonic 4k, M H D 32 inch.

Leo Laporte (01:49:54):
Yeah. That's what I bought for my wife.

Caller 5 (01:49:57):

Leo Laporte (01:49:57):
To go with her Mac studio display.

Caller 5 (01:50:01):
Cool. Yeah. Okay. So looking at this, compared to the 5k, am I gonna notice any sort of difference or yeah,

Leo Laporte (01:50:08):
The resolution will be 20% less. <Laugh> 20, 20%

Caller 5 (01:50:13):
Less. There

Leo Laporte (01:50:14):
You go. So apple is weird in selling these 5k monitors and by the way, they stopped making monitors. So they told everybody to get what was it? The was it the LG ultra fine, which is of a standalone 5k monitor. If you really wanted to be close to what you had with your iMac, that's what I would get. But honestly only because it's 5k the view Sonic is D which is probably most of what you're editing is anyway, you're not editing in 5k. And in fact, you're probably not editing in 4k if I'm thinking about it, right? Yeah. it does have, which is nice HDR, which the ultra fine does not. I think you're gonna be fine with that again, that's the difference is the resolution in order to do 5k apple in that iMac had to have a special chip set designed just for that 5k monitor. That's why not a lot of companies make 5k.

Caller 5 (01:51:17):
Okay. Yeah. And I'm not used to the, to the consumer grade stuff. And I was like, geez, this is only 300 bucks for this monitor. And I hope I don't get it.

Leo Laporte (01:51:26):
And no, at least I loves it. I love it. I'm a little jealous. Good. I actually don't run it in HDR mode because it makes a dimer. But again, the biggest issue for you is an editor. I presume you're using a better monitor for grading and that kind of stuff. Right. You're not relying on the color accuracy, right?

Caller 5 (01:51:43):
Correct. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:51:44):
Cause I mean, not that it's bad, I'm sure it's good. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> but I just don't know if it's as good as a, you know, a color standard monitor would be, those are, as you, as you know, that's what you use. They're very, very, very expensive. Yeah. I like the view. So I've been very happy. It's 38, 40 by 2160 instead of whatever the 5k would be, you know, that's the difference is the resolution.

Caller 5 (01:52:09):
Yeah. All right. And I got another question. Sure. So getting new carpet installed throughout the, I

Leo Laporte (01:52:17):
Think you want the Karastan, the the scotch guarded X 32 40 is my personal, go ahead.

Caller 5 (01:52:24):
My, my <laugh>. So so I'm gonna be ripping everything out of the edit suite. Right. And setting everything up downstairs while they're installing the carpeting. And I remember in the old days, static engineers back in the eighties would say, never vacuum any of your electronic equipment. That's right. We use, and that's still that

Leo Laporte (01:52:50):
That's still true. And the issue is static electricity.

Caller 5 (01:52:54):

Leo Laporte (01:52:56):
Oh, and vacuum cleaners can, can generate quite a bit of it. So they use a little and when you're using the the compressed air, you know, you know this, you just pump it. You don't do it steady cuz it'll and you gotta stop every once in a while. Cuz it gets so cold. You'll start getting moisture condensation. And you don't want that. Yep. Yep.

Caller 5 (01:53:14):
Okay. Good.

Leo Laporte (01:53:15):
No, I think that's still the rule. Not do not vacuum computers. Yeah, of course. We're both old timers. I might just, I don't know what the young kids say,

Caller 5 (01:53:24):
These kids,

Leo Laporte (01:53:25):
These kids today,

Mikah Sargent (01:53:26):
The only thing I say is invest in a little blower instead of using

Leo Laporte (01:53:32):
Can. Yeah. I said it can air. I agree with you. Yeah. Just a little that's what

Mikah Sargent (01:53:36):
Bulb that's what this kid's saying.

Leo Laporte (01:53:37):
That's yeah. Cuz he's cares about the environment cuz he's gonna be around in 30 years. Exactly. So I don't blame you not one bit. You're gonna love that view Sonic. It's funny. It's exactly what I got my wife for that reason. It was inexpensive and it's a beautiful monitor. Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:53:51):
Good. Yeah. That's really good to know. Yeah. Also the, the cruise, is that gonna be a yearly thing that you're doing

Leo Laporte (01:53:57):
Possibly, possibly. We're doing a a podcast network cruise, a twit cruise with our windows weekly guy July 16th through the 23rd, we got about more than a hundred people signed up. So that is a good indicator that we might well do it again next year. You want to go next year?

Caller 5 (01:54:12):
Next year? Yes.

Leo Laporte (01:54:14):
Deal. Jim. I'd love to meet you after all this time. Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:54:18):
<Laugh> it's been a while.

Leo Laporte (01:54:19):
Yeah. It's been a while. Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:54:21):
All right, Leo. Hey, thank you very much for taking my call and 

Leo Laporte (01:54:25):
Good. Enjoy your new edit suite. That's nice.

Caller 5 (01:54:28):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:54:29):
Get my regards to Anderson.

Caller 5 (01:54:32):
<Laugh> well they're down the street.

Leo Laporte (01:54:35):
No, I know you do the promos. I know. I know <laugh> for building. Yeah. All right. Take care. All

Mikah Sargent (01:54:40):
Right, man. Thank you byebye. <Laugh>

Leo Laporte (01:54:44):
Actually, they're all doing podcasts now. Aren't they? Oh, maybe not CNN plus didn't quite 

Mikah Sargent (01:54:50):
We don't talk about CNN. We

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Mikah Sargent (01:55:07):
Sounds about

Leo Laporte (01:55:07):
Right website Tech Guy I only have a minute left. Should I take, should I, maybe I should start. We should start a call. What do you think? Okay. That's we'll start a call. Sarah fi one of my favorite people from studio city, California, and then we'll just, we'll start it and then we can finish it later. Hi Sarah.

Caller 6 (01:55:25):
Yay. It's me. Yay.

Leo Laporte (01:55:27):
Hi Sarah.

Caller 6 (01:55:28):
Hi. How are

Leo Laporte (01:55:29):
You? Wonderful, talented artist.

Caller 6 (01:55:32):
Thank you. The reason I'm calling, I work on an matchbook pro laptop. Yep. And I have two inventories of my work on two different files. One of them is by series and the other one is by inventory number. Yes. I'm looking for a software where I can put the inventory number and, and the name or something.

Leo Laporte (01:56:05):
Yeah. We call that a relational database because it's related it wanna

Caller 6 (01:56:10):
Be, I wanna be able to put a picture yes. Of what that is.

Leo Laporte (01:56:16):
You want a, and it's inexpensive. You can try it free for 30 days database program that will allow images called nine N I N O It's amazing.

Caller 6 (01:56:29):
Oh great.

Leo Laporte (01:56:30):
Leo Laport Mikah Sargent, the Tech Guy, hang on surfing.

Leo Laporte (01:56:39):
I just learned about this for years. I would've recommended the $400 file maker which is nice, but it's very expensive. Ox is cheap and it is, it's a very simple database, but it's exactly what you want. It's kind of a like AC Microsoft access. It's a very straightforward database. It'll allow you to put your paintings in there as an image. But what I would suggest is do the 30 day trial to make sure, you know, don't spend a huge amount of time, but set up a database to see if it'll do everything you want, but then you would have one database that has all of that. Cuz you'd have a, you'd have,

Caller 6 (01:57:18):
Yeah. Right now I have three.

Leo Laporte (01:57:20):
Yeah. That's not, that's not good. Yeah. That's not good.

Caller 6 (01:57:23):
Is that, do I have to go through Chrome or can I go through apple safari?

Leo Laporte (01:57:29):
No, no, it's a standalone program. You put on your Mac.

Caller 6 (01:57:32):
Oh, okay. That sounds even better.

Leo Laporte (01:57:35):
Yeah. So it's completely private

Leo Laporte (01:57:38):
Uhhuh. <Affirmative> it is <laugh> I it's so inexpensive. I, I honestly I'm kind of blown away. It's like 30 bucks. The professional version is 20 euros. The, the starter version is 10 euros. It's nothing. Okay. And it is, it is yeah, you could, you can have it on the cloud. You can ha it works with max. Actually, maybe it is a cloud based anyway, it's a very, very good solution and it will give you all of the features I believe you want otherwise. And if the one that I often recommend and, and for years did is file maker. But again, it's very expensive, but it it's all, it's a beautiful program. If you want a really nice user interface, take a look at file maker.

Caller 6 (01:58:24):
Okay. You were talking about being the, you know, dinosaur old timer, something I'm just planning ahead so that when people here, you know, get my inventory.

Leo Laporte (01:58:34):
Oh, this is perfect for that. Yeah. This is perfect for that household inventory paintings. That kind of thing. What's your website again? Sine. So we can put it in the show notes, long

Caller 6 (01:58:44):
Shadow I

Leo Laporte (01:58:46):
Love your work.

Caller 6 (01:58:47):
All one word and all singular. Yeah. You know, it's that golden hour where it's perfect

Leo Laporte (01:58:52):

Caller 6 (01:58:54):
No one singular long,

Leo Laporte (01:58:56):
Long shadow. There's only one of them.

Caller 6 (01:58:58):
Yeah. There's only me.

Leo Laporte (01:58:59):
There's only you. I love your art. That's so beautiful. Thank

Caller 6 (01:59:03):
You. Yeah. I have, I have 11 pieces at the Tokyo metropolitan museum of art. Right. You're

Leo Laporte (01:59:09):
Kidding. That's amazing. No, congratulations.

Caller 6 (01:59:12):
Thank you.

Leo Laporte (01:59:13):
That's wonderful. Sarah.

Caller 6 (01:59:16):
I could, if, if there's a way to put you on my notice list, when I get accepted into things, I would appreciate that

Leo Laporte (01:59:24):

Caller 6 (01:59:25):

Leo Laporte (01:59:26):
Yeah. It's. It's where I live. <Laugh> I live in Leoville it's a little town. I'm the only resident.

Caller 6 (01:59:36):
Okay. Well, if you see something says art from Sen you'll know what is a notice.

Leo Laporte (01:59:40):
Thank you, sine. I'm gonna, I'm gonna buy some prints. They're beautiful. I love them.

Caller 6 (01:59:45):
Thank you. Thank you. I have a new helicopter. I have a new series right now where I'm taking turn of the century, CPS tone photograph and I'm changing them on raw linen. Ooh. And they're done to look like the sepias, but when I feel like the person is speaking to me, I add other things. Wow. To, you know, it gets into the,

Leo Laporte (02:00:08):
You use acrylics or oil. What do you,

Caller 6 (02:00:10):
I use acrylic acrylics. I'm from I'm from Louisiana oils. Never dried. So I was introduced

Leo Laporte (02:00:16):
<Laugh> ah,

Caller 6 (02:00:18):
First generation of acrylics and it took, I took off from there. And when I moved to California, I had to learn to adapt my painting to the lack of humidity. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:00:28):
I, I grew up with a number of artists in the smell of Lynne oil. Ha is very evocative for me. I smell that. And I go, Ooh,

Caller 6 (02:00:37):
You see, I smell it. And I end up in the hospital.

Leo Laporte (02:00:39):
It's not good for you. It turns out <laugh> no. Oh boy. Yeah. As it turns out. But I grew up with that. My, my aunt was a painter. My mom and my sister now is a fine artist as well. So,

Caller 6 (02:00:51):
Well, when I get this new website, I mean this new software setup, I'll send you a link and you can cruise through my inventory.

Leo Laporte (02:00:59):
Yeah. Yeah. Let me know what you think of it. Yeah. Yeah.

Caller 6 (02:01:02):
Okay. Thank you. Another

Leo Laporte (02:01:03):
One. Oh, this is a good one. Scooter is posted in there air table, which is that one is web based. That's very good too. And, but that's a subscription fee I think, but Eric. Okay. But there's another one to look at, but I think ox is exactly what you want.

Caller 6 (02:01:18):
Got it. Okay. I am so excited now to go to the hardware store.

Leo Laporte (02:01:22):
Yay. Take care.

Caller 6 (02:01:25):
Okay. Thank you

Leo Laporte (02:01:25):
So much, byebye.

Caller 6 (02:01:27):

Leo Laporte (02:01:29):
Well, Hey, Hey. Hey. How are you today? Leo? LePort here. The Tech Guy, time to talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches. I go on and on, but why? <Laugh> like, you know what I'm talking about? I, I used to say anything with a chip in it, but the internet doesn't have a chip in it. Oh, it's got a chip, a chip on a shoulder chip on a shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. Eighty eight, eighty eight. Hasley Hass. The phone number website, Tech Guy Mike, a Sergeant and I are here for you. Karen in pin Hills, California. Hello, Karen.

Caller 6 (02:02:04):
Hi. How are you?

Leo Laporte (02:02:06):
I'm well, how are you?

Caller 6 (02:02:07):
I'm doing well. Good. I'm buying a new computer. Oh, exciting. I use getting chills desktop office. Okay. And Adobe. Okay. what brand should I get? I have an Asus right now. What?

Leo Laporte (02:02:25):
They still are. Very good. I do you want a laptop or desktop

Caller 6 (02:02:29):

Leo Laporte (02:02:31):
Okay. And how high end is the work you do? Is it you're not designing video games, rockets to the moon. Are you doing photographs?

Caller 6 (02:02:42):

Leo Laporte (02:02:43):
Okay. So photography, no video editing? No. Okay. Jesus makes a gaming system. That's also very good for that high end stuff. They call it their Rog or Republic of gamers line. And those are very high end, but they're also kind of funny looking cuz gamers, you know, that's probably not what I'm gonna recommend to you. <Laugh>

Caller 6 (02:03:06):

Leo Laporte (02:03:07):
But they do. I think ACEs also makes very good business laptops as well. You want windows 11? I'm thinking. Yes.

Caller 6 (02:03:14):

Leo Laporte (02:03:15):
I'll be honest. What I, I I'll tell you where I put my money cuz I was not so long ago debating what to buy for a, I needed a windows machine and of course, you know, you think Microsoft, they make machines to, they tend to be overpriced. And I think kind of UN UN unimpressive, like they're very solid, but, and nicely designed, but I'm not sure that I would recommend them. Then I looked at Lenovo, which for years has made the think pads and think pads are really, you know, not, not attractive. They're kind of like trucks, but they're very, very powerful, nicely made the latest think pads are extremely thin and light. So I, I also like Lenovo's think pads. I looked at HP, which makes some very nice. The HP X 360 is very nice, but here's another thing I was starting to think about with all these manufacturers.

Leo Laporte (02:04:16):
Intel's latest generation processor is the 12th generation. They call it Alder lake, but you'll more likely see 12th generation and Intel has done some interesting things with the new processor. Inspired, I think by competition, from apple, with its M one, these new processors have both performance cores and efficiency cores, which means better battery life, but performance when you need it. And Apple's done really well with its own Silicon. These M one chips and it, this is Intel's attempt to compete. So then I thought, well maybe I should get a 12th generation. That's narrows it down a lot because these are very new processors. They only came out at the beginning of the year. And so you don't have a huge number of choices. I ended up going to Dell and getting an XPS laptop. How big is the screen that you want?

Caller 6 (02:05:11):
Actually I have two I think they're 24, 27 inch screen.

Leo Laporte (02:05:16):
Well, this isn't a laptop then this is a desktop.

Caller 6 (02:05:21):
Well I can't, I can't plug my

Leo Laporte (02:05:25):
Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I see what you're saying. You want an external monitor? Oh yeah. So you don't really care what the laptop has?

Caller 6 (02:05:32):
No, no. Not as far as the screen goes.

Leo Laporte (02:05:35):
Okay. So Dell makes the two, three different sizes of the XPA. There's a 13, a 15 and a 17 I'd stay away from the 17. You obviously don't need a giant one. The 13 is interesting, but a little weird. I ended up buying a Dell 15 inch. I feel like that's a good compromise. They have the newest versions. The 20, 22 versions have the 12th generation Intel processors. I got an I five, not an I seven to save money. And I think for 1500 bucks, I've got a very nice 15 inch laptop. You can add more memory. I would at least get 16 gigs. That's gonna add a hundred bucks.

Caller 6 (02:06:16):
That's what I was gonna ask you. Yes. Since I'm buying a new machine, should I bump it up to 32?

Leo Laporte (02:06:22):
Yeah. If you do photos, you're using Photoshop and Lightroom. Yeah,

Caller 6 (02:06:27):

Leo Laporte (02:06:27):
Yeah. They, those are those like a lot of memories. So you bump it up to 32. I think that's plenty. Okay. You might want to get a larger, hard drive a terabyte or two, but I think a terabyte is good for most people. Yeah. Yeah. I think these Dell, personally, this is what I, where I put my money. It's a Dell XPS 15 and I really was interested. Now these are new processors. So you know, there aren't any, there aren't many reviews yet. I, one of the reasons I wanted to get it is cuz I wanted to review it for you. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> but I have high confidence from looking at the few reviews. I've seen that these are much improved in terms of both performance and battery life. So I think, okay. I think this is a, kind of a, a, a beautiful light, thin laptop with good performance and under $2,000.

Caller 6 (02:07:13):
Okay. Can I ask you another question? Sure. Can the store or, or can I run antivirus software on my old machine before I copy everything over? Sure.

Leo Laporte (02:07:26):
In fact, you don't even have to buy it. You can you can do it online. Go somewhere like, which is trend micros, online scanner and okay. By the way, windows 10 has its own built in scanner, Microsoft defender. So you can do a thorough, in fact, I would do a thorough defender scan on the, on the thing. And then yeah. Then you don't have generally data files don't have viruses in them. So you're you're generally okay. But you're right. You should probably scan it before you copy it.

Caller 6 (02:07:57):
Okay. So is

Leo Laporte (02:08:00):
Yep. That's one. And then you have windows 10 on the old machine.

Leo Laporte (02:08:06):
Or is, it might be older. It might be windows.

Caller 6 (02:08:08):
It's about 15 years old. Oh

Leo Laporte (02:08:12):

Caller 6 (02:08:12):
It's lasted this

Leo Laporte (02:08:13):
Long. I'm glad you're getting a new laptop. Congratulations. <laugh> oh, you're gonna love this.

Caller 6 (02:08:20):
I know you're

Leo Laporte (02:08:20):
Gonna love this.

Caller 6 (02:08:22):
I waited a long time.

Leo Laporte (02:08:24):
You can down. If it's, if it's really old, like windows seven, you can download defender from Microsoft and run it. And it comes with windows 10 and 11. You'll have it on your new machine. In fact, I would not buy another antivirus for your new machine. Just use the one that comes with it.

Caller 6 (02:08:37):
Okay. All right. Great.

Leo Laporte (02:08:40):
I think you're, you're gonna tell, call me and let me know how you like it. I will, I get mine. This is one thing I should let you know when you're, when you're buying the latest stuff. You're gonna be waiting a month or two.

Caller 6 (02:08:52):
Oh really?

Leo Laporte (02:08:53):
Yeah. Chip shortage. I'm getting mine in a month.

Mikah Sargent (02:08:56):
Hey, you waited this long though. <Laugh>

Leo Laporte (02:08:57):
You waited 15 years. What's another month. 15 years. So I think it's worth it to get the newest. You could go to, you know, Costco or best buy or somewhere, but those would be older machines and you wouldn't be able to configure them. I think it's worth getting exactly what you want and just saying, yeah, I'll get it in June or July.

Caller 6 (02:09:14):

Leo Laporte (02:09:15):

Caller 6 (02:09:17):
Thank you.

Leo Laporte (02:09:17):
Thank you, Karen. I love spending people's money.

Mikah Sargent (02:09:19):
Yeah. Oh, and it's also so exciting when someone hasn't updated in a long time, you just know they're gonna love it 15

Leo Laporte (02:09:24):
Years. She's probably running XP. Yeah. It's really time. Yeah. I'll let you know what I think of this 15. And you have the Microsoft surface laptop.

Mikah Sargent (02:09:35):
I have surface laptop three. You, which is the last gen surface laptop. I think it's just one gen out, but you're you're so right. It is a beautiful machine. It's

Leo Laporte (02:09:45):
Hard to

Mikah Sargent (02:09:45):
Get excited. It just doesn't it. It's not, it's not super fast. It gets so hot. That's the big thing. You can't use it as a laptop. It's gotta sit on something

Leo Laporte (02:09:54):
That's too bad.

Mikah Sargent (02:09:55):
But I do. I, I, you know, get all the updates installed and there are occasional occasionally things I need to do on a windows machine that I'm not able to do on a Mac. And so,

Leo Laporte (02:10:03):
Yeah, it's good for that. 88 88 ask Leo and Micah. 8 8 8 8 2 7 7 3 9 7 1 2 7 7 4 3 4 4. That's the no, just 88 88. Ask Leo. That's all you need. Leo Laport, Micah, Sergeant your Tech Guys more calls right after this. Leo LaPorte, the Tech Guy in a beautiful Saturday afternoon, 88 88. Ask Leo mic. Sergeant is consented to ruin his day by joining me. <Laugh> thank you for, for doing that. Oh, I'm happy to be here. Great to have you, Kyle Riverside, California is next. Hi Kyle.

Caller 7 (02:10:50):
Hey, how are you? Leo?

Leo Laporte (02:10:52):
Great. Welcome. How are you?

Caller 7 (02:10:55):
My question is I'm. I'm doing great. Just a little hot. It's almost a hundred degrees out here. Oh,

Leo Laporte (02:11:00):
Holy moly. Yikes.

Caller 7 (02:11:03):
<Laugh> so my question is I own a custom metal fabrication company. Okay. And one of the machines that we have is like an industrial CNC laser cutting machine. Nice. And the, the controller of it uses some form of like embedded windows. Right. And I, but I can't install anything on it. No. So I'm wondering if anybody makes something where I can access it, like a, like I do with remote PC and just plug it in with like a USB table for the, you know, keyboard and mouse emulation and like the CBI connector that connects to the monitor.

Leo Laporte (02:11:42):
So you would like to use the CPU for the cutter as basically kind of a little computer that you could then access as if it were a regular computer with keyboard mouse and monitor.

Caller 7 (02:11:51):
Well, yeah. I wanna be able to access it remotely.

Leo Laporte (02:11:54):
Ah, remotely. Sometimes

Caller 7 (02:11:55):
We can. Yeah, because sometimes we can run it, you know, overnight or over the weekend and let it run jobs, but then I don't really have a way to monitor what the machine is doing.

Leo Laporte (02:12:04):
Yeah. That's a very good question. Who's who's the manufacturer of the CNC?

Caller 7 (02:12:14):

Leo Laporte (02:12:16):

Caller 7 (02:12:18):

Leo Laporte (02:12:19):
F Trump German company. Yeah, no, I'm familiar actually. It really would depend on, and I think a lot of times it isn't a technical issue as much as they would like to upsell you with some additional features. Yeah, it's probably embedded windows. I, you know, I just, the answer is, I just don't know. You you'd probably have to ask the Trump of people. Usually this stuff is locked down and what, are there any ports on the machine?

Caller 7 (02:12:53):
Well, yeah, that's what I was wondering. You know, it would be the same thing as like, if there was some sort of remote PC setup where you can actually install software,

Leo Laporte (02:13:00):
But it's not on, is it online

Caller 7 (02:13:02):
To plug

Leo Laporte (02:13:02):
In? Is it online?

Caller 7 (02:13:04):
It is. And they, I think they actually use PC anywhere to be able to access it remotely, but they, they won't let me access it

Leo Laporte (02:13:11):
Remotely. Yeah, of course not. They don't give you the credentials. You know, it's funny because I would, you know, I, I don't know the answer off the top of my head. If I were in your shoes, I would be going around on forums you know, asking around, Googling around because it's gonna take somebody who is a bit of a hacker to have figured this out. I don't think the Trump company wants you to get in there, but the fact that they have remote access into it, that it's online and they have remote access into it tells me that you probably could do it too. They may have for instance, and this would be a very poor security issue, but they may have a hardwired login instead of a dedicated, you know, login, that's just for you for them. And they know, and they keep it a database somewhere and you know, it's yours and yours alone. Most often companies like this instead of doing it right. That would be the right way to do it. Just say, yeah, the login is admin admin <laugh> and it works <laugh> right. I it's really gonna be what the Trump company has done to lock it down and then what somebody else has done to figure it out.

Caller 7 (02:14:26):
Okay. So there's no, there's no like standalone thing that you're aware of that you could plug it into like the monitor cable and plug it into one of the USB

Leo Laporte (02:14:35):
Ports. No, the reason being, they have to have the software inside the machine to do that. And you, and it sounds like they are running some sort of VNC, you know server on there that they can log into. You've heard PC anywhere, which is hysterical. It's possible. But I would, I would get, you know, for me designing this thing, you really wanna lock that down. You don't want some third party getting into your CNC machine.

Caller 7 (02:15:04):

Leo Laporte (02:15:04):
Right. So the fact that they can do remote support, <laugh>, that's really interesting tells you there it is accessible. So really what they're, what you wanna know is how can I hack the <laugh> the remote support that they're doing, you're basically hacking. And I would hope they've made that very, very difficult. Otherwise it wouldn't just be you <laugh>.

Caller 7 (02:15:31):

Leo Laporte (02:15:32):
So how much of a hacker do you feel like, and this is where you're gonna have to do some, some research on this and, and see if anybody else has figured out how to do this. This is a fairly specialized thing. And, you know, you've told me enough to know that it's possible, unless, unless they've really locked it down.

Caller 7 (02:15:55):
Right. And yeah, I didn't, I didn't want to try, you know, getting into it or installing anything on it as I don't wanna mess it up. We use it every day. <Laugh> so I was just looking to see if you knew of any,

Leo Laporte (02:16:06):
Not off the top of my head,

Caller 7 (02:16:08):
Something like remote PC, you

Leo Laporte (02:16:10):
Know? Yeah, no, you'd have to know what was running in there, inside that box to accept their remote access and <affirmative> and whether they have, you know, what, what they should, I mean, honestly, that's a huge, you know, in general, you don't want to put devices like this online on the public internet, cuz people are gonna hammer on it. So one would hope they've done a really good job of locking it down. Otherwise, you know, anybody malicious could get into your CNC machine and interrupt a job, ruin a job, all sorts of things. Right. So I, I would hope it's really secured if it's not, that will be online and, and then you can figure it out. And it would also indicate to me that you should take it off the internet whenever <laugh>. Yeah. It doesn't need to be on the internet. Does it, is it on the internet for any other purpose or?

Caller 7 (02:17:02):
No. Just, well, no, just for remote diagnostics and then obviously's hook to our local network so we can yeah. Save job files.

Leo Laporte (02:17:10):
That's the kind of thing you want to air gap. You want to keep off the public internet because if there's a way into it, well, somebody's found it, which could be good news for you. <Laugh> if you find such a thing, then you make sure you disconnect the internet access. Whenever it is not needed, cuz you know, that's a risk. I mean, it's not like they can steal from you, but they could certainly ruin a job.

Caller 7 (02:17:35):

Leo Laporte (02:17:36):
And there's, you know, there's nothing to say. There's not some 13 year old in Bulgaria who does it for kicks, but that's what you need basically is a Bulgarian 13 year old who could figure out how to get into this thing. What do you cut? Is it yeah, right. <Laugh>

Caller 7 (02:17:53):
We, we we're a job shop. So we do a little bit of everything. Nice. You know, fence panels, the automotive parts everything in between. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:18:00):
Maybe somebody's listening and knows how to get into it. What model number is it?

Caller 7 (02:18:05):
10 30.

Leo Laporte (02:18:06):
It's a Trump, 10 30. This would be fun if somebody calls in and says, oh yeah, I know how to get there. You know, it's easy. Oh you, the password is password. Then you need to be very worried, right? Yeah. You could. I mean you could, you know, if I were a hacker and you know, you said here Leo, here's 50 bucks. See if you can get into this thing, I'd go onto your network. I'd run some network tools to see what protocols are going on. End map or something like that to see what ports are open on that machine that might give you some idea. If they're using RDP or PC anywhere or whatever, you, you know, you could learn some things. And I wouldn't be surprised. It's very common. You see in this kind of hardware, that there is a default that they never bothered to change. That lets you log in. And that would be a terrible security issue. But it's completely possible. And that if that's the case, then yeah, you can get into it. No problem. I mean just search for hack Trump 10 30. <Laugh> see what you can find. Leo Laur. Mike is Sergeant the Tech Guy. The GIW is coming up in 15.

Leo Laporte (02:19:21):
Let me just see hack Go in the dark net for something like this. Oh he's he's tunneling in folks. I'm tunneling in Eighty eight, eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number. Joy is on the line from Scott's valley, California. Huh? Oh, you're joy in I know who you are. Hi joy.

Caller 8 (02:19:50):
Yeah. I'm joy in Santa Cruz on the, yeah. On the chat. You're

Leo Laporte (02:19:54):
In the chat. Good to see you. You were having a hard time getting in. I'm glad you made it.

Caller 8 (02:19:58):
I'm glad you took me.

Leo Laporte (02:19:59):
Yay. What's up?

Caller 8 (02:20:01):
Okay. A couple of things. 

Leo Laporte (02:20:05):
Do you don't know off the top of your head, how to hack a Trump, 10 30 CNC scan mill device. Do you? I,

Caller 8 (02:20:12):
I wish <laugh>

Leo Laporte (02:20:16):
Okay. What else?

Caller 8 (02:20:19):
No. I wanted to tell you about something, which I think you might wanna look into. It's called the cricket.

Leo Laporte (02:20:27):
C R I C U T.

Caller 8 (02:20:30):
Yes. And it's a to, it's a, it's totally a tech tool.

Leo Laporte (02:20:36):
I have wanted one of these for a long time. You mentioned the name in the chat room and I hadn't heard of it. But once I went to the website, C I C I knew exactly what you were talking about. Could we have listeners who have crickets who have made us beautiful vinyl stickers and things like that, right?

Caller 8 (02:20:52):
Yeah. And I just made some beautiful cards and, and 3d dimensional pictures with it.

Leo Laporte (02:21:00):
So, so is it mostly vinyl? You cut? What do you, what do you cut with it?

Caller 8 (02:21:06):
Mainly paper card stock, but I just ordered some, some what they call vinyl transfer sheets.

Leo Laporte (02:21:14):
That's what this is. It's a vinyl transfer sheet. So it cuts out the vinyl. I don't know how they do this. And then it's and then you could put it. I put every laptop. I, when I get a new laptop, I have a little you know, the company logo I put on the laptop. So no one will, you know, take it. Don't know it's mine. Right. I love these. Now how much is a cricket?

Caller 8 (02:21:35):
A cricket is about $350. Well,

Leo Laporte (02:21:39):
That's not as much as I thought. And then is it like a printer you feed to work with? You feed, how does it work? You it's like a printer. You feed the paper in or what?

Caller 8 (02:21:47):
You feed the paper in on a mat and it goes in through the mat and it cuts it and then goes back and forth until it cuts out the pattern. And then you peel the, the paper off and then you get all of the, the relief.

Leo Laporte (02:22:03):
Could I do this with fabric?

Caller 8 (02:22:06):
Yes, you

Leo Laporte (02:22:07):
Can. Cause I could tell you when I was making masks back in the day, remember that pandemic of 20, 20? <Laugh>

Caller 8 (02:22:15):
How can I forget? Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:22:16):
<Laugh> yeah, I was, I, I'm not great with cut color and paste. I wasn't good in kindergarten. I'm not good as an adult. And you know, I was using, you know, shes and stuff. Don't

Caller 8 (02:22:26):
I don't know if you could

Leo Laporte (02:22:27):
Cut. Oh, not like that, huh?

Caller 8 (02:22:29):
No, that kind of stuff. No, because it's a cotton and, and you also need to have an interfacing and you need to have, yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:22:36):
It kind of crinkles up on me. Yeah. You don't. I tried to roller cutter. I tried all different ways of

Caller 8 (02:22:41):
Doing it. Have to send you my pattern for masks.

Leo Laporte (02:22:44):
Oh nice.

Caller 8 (02:22:45):
I know how to do these.

Leo Laporte (02:22:46):
Nice. I'll be ready for the next pandemic.

Caller 8 (02:22:50):

Leo Laporte (02:22:50):
So this thing <laugh> Mike is crossing himself. So this thing oh, they have, the press is separate from the cutter, right?

Caller 8 (02:22:59):
The press is for laminating vinyl to cloth.

Leo Laporte (02:23:06):
I see. Okay. Okay. Like making t-shirts and

Caller 8 (02:23:09):
Stuff. I'll I'll warn people about that. It's very heavy and it gets very hot. About 360 degrees

Leo Laporte (02:23:15):
Probably has to. Yeah.

Caller 8 (02:23:17):

Leo Laporte (02:23:17):
Do you have that too?

Caller 8 (02:23:19):
Yeah, I have that too.

Leo Laporte (02:23:20):
You have the whole cricket line,

Caller 8 (02:23:22):
Not everything yet. You

Mikah Sargent (02:23:24):
Have an access shop where we can see

Leo Laporte (02:23:25):
This stuff. Yeah. Do you sell it?

Caller 8 (02:23:28):
No, I don't sell it. I'm just sharing.

Leo Laporte (02:23:31):
Is your house loaded with cricket? Cut flowers,

Mikah Sargent (02:23:35):
Vinyls all over

Leo Laporte (02:23:36):
The wall. Vinyl stickers.

Caller 8 (02:23:38):
I'm just starting to learn how to use this.

Leo Laporte (02:23:40):
How fun, how fun. You know, I love crafty stuff and now it's really gotten technical cuz you, you, you tie it to a computer, right?

Caller 8 (02:23:48):
Yeah. It's totally tagged to the computer. You, you, you create your designs on the computer. I just found a JPEG design that I transferred or converted into an SVG mm-hmm <affirmative> file because that's what the cricket uses. And I made this beautiful Northwest American or Pacific Northwest American Raven design.

Leo Laporte (02:24:15):
Ooh, nice. And what are you gonna do with that?

Caller 8 (02:24:18):
I turned it into a picture. I put it in a,

Leo Laporte (02:24:21):
Oh, you framed it. Yeah. Nice.

Caller 8 (02:24:23):
I framed it. It's beautiful.

Leo Laporte (02:24:25):

Mikah Sargent (02:24:25):
Joy. One of the things I'm looking forward to doing is 

Leo Laporte (02:24:28):
Mike is very crafty. These

Mikah Sargent (02:24:29):
Miniature kits where you can make a house or a room that's very small. And up to this point, I've always had to cut out all those tiny little pieces by hand.

Caller 8 (02:24:38):
No, no, no, no, no. You don't have to do that anymore.

Mikah Sargent (02:24:40):
Exactly, exactly.

Caller 8 (02:24:43):
She has there's a couple of websites and if you email me, I will send you the link to one of these people who does this kind of stuff. She is Jennifer and, and I think I can,

Leo Laporte (02:25:00):
Well, we can find that. Yeah. Jennifer Okay.

Caller 8 (02:25:03):
And she's got all of these luminaries.

Leo Laporte (02:25:06):
What's a Lumin. Oh, you like luminary the 

Caller 8 (02:25:09):
Well you can put a,

Leo Laporte (02:25:11):
You put a candle in a, in a bag and it's cut out. Yeah. Yeah.

Caller 8 (02:25:15):
It's really cool. And I was so stunned by some of the things I've seen on there. And there's also all kinds of pens. You can get that you can insert.

Leo Laporte (02:25:31):
I wonder if this is draws, this is gonna start being a game on the show is to see what we can get Leo to buy. <Laugh> like people are gonna call in. <Laugh> like joy and say, this is what you need to get.

Caller 8 (02:25:44):
<Laugh> Micah. You need to get this.

Leo Laporte (02:25:46):
Yeah. Let's try mic.

Mikah Sargent (02:25:48):
I've been saving for one. So I plan on,

Leo Laporte (02:25:50):
Oh, you know all about it.

Mikah Sargent (02:25:51):
Yeah. Yeah. I've had a cricket in my cart for, and it wasn't the one that chirps I've had the cricket in my cart for a while. So oh, interest,

Caller 8 (02:25:56):
A cricket maker. Yeah. I have the cricket Explorer. That's cheaper, but the cricket maker is it will cut through wood veneer.

Mikah Sargent (02:26:09):
Yes. That's exactly why I plan on going for that one. Yep. I did some research on this as well, so

Leo Laporte (02:26:13):
Oh, you know all about it. Yeah.

Mikah Sargent (02:26:15):
I, like I said, I've been eyeball on one of these for a while. And we teaching

Leo Laporte (02:26:18):
About that. The chat I'm saying you should get a glow forge, a 3d. Ooh. Those are more laser printers. Those are more oh, okay. Those

Mikah Sargent (02:26:24):
Are a lot more

Leo Laporte (02:26:25):
Pricey. Those are laser cutters. Yeah.

Caller 8 (02:26:28):
Yeah. The laser cutters are,

Mikah Sargent (02:26:29):
I think Glen Fleishman has a glow forge

Caller 8 (02:26:31):
Bit more expensive, but can I send you pictures of the ones I've made

Leo Laporte (02:26:36):
Leo? Sure. I'd love to see them. Leo

Caller 8 (02:26:40):

Leo Laporte (02:26:43):

Caller 8 (02:26:43):
Okay. I'll send,

Leo Laporte (02:26:44):
You can also send it to It all goes in the same bucket.

Caller 8 (02:26:48):
Well, I, I made a, I made a, a butterfly man, which has got like four levels of color paper.

Leo Laporte (02:26:58):
I just, I just, somebody take my credit card away from me. I'm just such a sucker for this stuff.

Caller 8 (02:27:05):
Well, I mean, if you're gonna, if you're gonna do crafting, you need the help with technology at this point. If

Mikah Sargent (02:27:15):
You're gonna go to town, go to town in a Lincoln, except in this case, it'd be go to town in a cricket

Leo Laporte (02:27:20):
With suicide doors. Yeah. It's perfect for me. Hey, it's a pleasure to meet you finally. Joy. You've been a, a great fun person in our chat room. It's so nice to talk. I think this is the first time we've talked, right?

Caller 8 (02:27:29):
It is

Leo Laporte (02:27:30):
Welcome. Thanks

Caller 8 (02:27:31):
To my husband.

Leo Laporte (02:27:32):
Pardon me? Not

Caller 8 (02:27:33):
Me. You talked to my husband, but not me.

Leo Laporte (02:27:35):
I don't know the woman. I never met her. What? <Laugh> what's what's your husband's name?

Caller 8 (02:27:39):
<Laugh> Tom.

Leo Laporte (02:27:40):
Tom in Santa Cruz. I remember Tom. Yes. Yeah. All right. Nice to meet you both.

Caller 8 (02:27:46):
Okay. That's

Leo Laporte (02:27:47):
Great. Yeah. It's a real pleasure. Thank you. Joy.

Caller 8 (02:27:49):

Leo Laporte (02:27:49):
You. I love you too. Don't tell Tom <laugh> yeah, I'm a sucker for this stuff. I am sucker for this people. Tell me about this stuff. I go, I think I need one of those.

Mikah Sargent (02:28:01):
See? Yeah, because we, I, I feel like that's where we, we're both like to play with different things.

Leo Laporte (02:28:04):
I like to play with things, things. Yeah. And that's really why I do this job. It was even in the very early days, when I started writing for computer magazines in the late seventies, it was really all about just say, well, I'd like to play with that. Yeah. I'd like to try that. And and you see how it's spun out of control now, 80 88, ask Leo, Dick de Bartolo whose job it is by the way to try to get me to buy stuff.

Mikah Sargent (02:28:28):
He's coming

Leo Laporte (02:28:29):
Soon. He's coming up and he's going to try to get me to buy something. And it might happen. I did. I admit now you've all heard my tale of woo with drones and I, how I'm not allowed to buy another drone. I fell for somebody who was telling me about the new DJ. I micro three and I bought it mini three. I'm just, I have a problem. Leo Laport, D Tech Guy. I have such a problem. You

Mikah Sargent (02:28:55):
Buy the cricket and you can put racing stripes on your,

Leo Laporte (02:28:57):
Oh, see <laugh> now I have to have racing stripes in my drones. That's what I need. Hello? Dickie D

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:07):
Hey Leo, how you doing? I

Leo Laporte (02:29:08):
Love your shirt. Can I buy that?

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:13):
Let's see. I bought it online, but I forgot. It's

Leo Laporte (02:29:15):
Really, it looks like, like a really fancy Hawaiian shirt. That's beautiful. Yeah. It's it's it's is it a Tommy Bahama?

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:24):
No. I think it's Louie of Kurtz. So I'm not sure. Louis it's it's Louis it's

Leo Laporte (02:29:33):
Of GI Barta. Yeah. Frankie of flat push

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:35):
It's good. Flat Bush. I love his dollars. Frankie flat. This is a little guy made on the geo forge. Oh,

Leo Laporte (02:29:42):
Oh, you got something too. The glow

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:44):
Forge. Yeah. Yeah. The glow forge that though.

Leo Laporte (02:29:47):
You have that too. Do you have one or somebody made it for you?

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:51):
Oh no, no, no. When they intro, when they first introduced it. Oh they had a press, a van. Is that wood made? Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:29:58):

Dick DeBartolo (02:29:59):
And yeah. Wood with a puzzle. And I just put tape on the back. So I don't wanna put it back together again.

Leo Laporte (02:30:05):
Oh, it's only $7,000. Yeah.

Dick DeBartolo (02:30:08):
It's very exciting. No, no. They have come out with two models and I believe the last press release said they're breaking the $700. Really?

Leo Laporte (02:30:17):
See that's oh, don't tell Leo interest to me.

Dick DeBartolo (02:30:20):
Oh, okay.

Leo Laporte (02:30:20):
Just the air filter alone is $1,295. The glow forge basic is 39 95. No glow forge plus is 49 95. The glow forge pro, which of course that's. My other problem is I'm only, only ever.

Dick DeBartolo (02:30:37):
You only get the, yeah. The

Leo Laporte (02:30:38):
Very, very

Dick DeBartolo (02:30:39):
Best. You're not allowed to buy

Leo Laporte (02:30:41):
Anything. I'm not gonna buy amateur gear. No, not gonna do that. Choose the most powerful and capable glow forge. The glow forge pro is the same size, but can print enormous objects with the pro pass through slot and has upgraded cooling for all day use. Wow. I don't know if I wanna burn all day. It also features upgraded components and increased laser power. You've

Dick DeBartolo (02:31:08):
Got a 3d printer on

Leo Laporte (02:31:09):
The way to print. I do. Yeah. What do you mean?

Dick DeBartolo (02:31:12):
Yeah. Remember you

Leo Laporte (02:31:13):
Ordered one. I bought a 3d printer. Yes. No I

Dick DeBartolo (02:31:16):
Didn't. Yes. After from anchor. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:31:18):
From anchor. Was I drunk?

Mikah Sargent (02:31:20):
You pre-ordered it? No, no. I, I actually I'm the bad guy in that instance. I convinced you.

Leo Laporte (02:31:25):
Well pre-order is not an order. That's true. Did I just ask, did oh shoot. Good Lord. Dick. Your dangerous man.

Mikah Sargent (02:31:34):
We thought it'd be a good idea for us to have one here. And then the idea was that club twit could have like a little webcam. They could watch things getting printed on it.

Dick DeBartolo (02:31:45):

Leo Laporte (02:31:51):
Class four, laser product place near a window for ventilation or for am mere 1295 by the glow forge air filter. Let's your, your glow forge anywhere, the size of a recycle bin. It cleans the air coming out of your glow forge. If you don't use an air filter your glow for comes with everything. You need to vent through window by inducting. No, I'm not gonna buy anything like that. No, no. I bought too much stuff. I don't use. I can't use that, man. <Laugh> he is a macho macho man dancing onto our studio floor. Dick D Bartolo. Is that the worm? Wow. You are flexible. Mr. D <laugh> welcome.

Dick DeBartolo (02:32:37):
Yeah, it is. Yeah, absolutely.

Leo Laporte (02:32:39):
Very impressive. Very impressive.

Dick DeBartolo (02:32:41):
Oh good. I'm I'm

Leo Laporte (02:32:42):
Glad. Dickie Bartolo, Mads maddest writer and our very own gizmo wizard, Dickie D

Dick DeBartolo (02:32:53):
Leah. How you doing pal?

Leo Laporte (02:32:54):
Couldn't be better. What's the weather like in Disneyland?

Dick DeBartolo (02:32:58):
Today it's kind of gloomy and I think it just started raining, but we had a first 70 degree day yesterday. So I puts, bring us here

Leo Laporte (02:33:05):
Short. I was well, that's why I was thinking you're wearing a beautiful Hawaiian shirt. I thought maybe it's balmy.

Dick DeBartolo (02:33:12):
We finally had 70. Yeah. It was a dreadful spring. Dreadful.

Leo Laporte (02:33:16):
Yeah. Well sures up

Dick DeBartolo (02:33:18):
Some gadget or gizz. I, I know you've but been avoiding buying stuff. You probably won't buy this, but you should, oh,

Mikah Sargent (02:33:25):
Please don't make him buy this. I'm scared.

Dick DeBartolo (02:33:27):
Okay. <laugh> all right. So there was another live event in the city called time to play magazine. Time to play magazine is a magazine for people who sell toys. And I went in and I said to Dennis who is, who does the filming? I said, well, you have to look for something. I said, oh my God. Oh my look at that machine producing tons of foam.

Leo Laporte (02:33:57):
That's what we need. The ator.

Dick DeBartolo (02:33:59):
I went over to the former. No, you want the former Alan former

Leo Laporte (02:34:03):

Dick DeBartolo (02:34:04):
The former Alan. I said to the woman, can I stick my head in there? And she said, oh yeah, it's nontoxic. It won't hurt your eyes. This is

Leo Laporte (02:34:14):
Used by some of the best discos in Abitha <laugh> I believe.

Dick DeBartolo (02:34:18):
Well, you know what? When, when I had a disco on my houseboat, yeah. A fog machine was like $2,000.

Leo Laporte (02:34:28):

Dick DeBartolo (02:34:29):
Okay. The, to, to the form, the formal land, which

Leo Laporte (02:34:33):
Islan the one I want formal LAN not the formal later. No, I want the formal, the formal

Dick DeBartolo (02:34:38):
Is just for the formal land. Can fill five pickup trucks in 25 minutes. Why

Leo Laporte (02:34:45):
Would you wanna fill the pickup trucks? Fill a foam?

Dick DeBartolo (02:34:48):
Well I think they just wanted to come up with a phrase that kids would like,

Leo Laporte (02:34:52):
Oh right. Wow. I could. How about a room? Will it fill my room with phone? Well,

Dick DeBartolo (02:34:58):
Let's find out. Let's get,

Leo Laporte (02:35:00):
Wanna buy this 40 bucks. Oh, I have to buy this now. Oh, damn. What are you doing? Well, only requires, wait a minute. This is a disadvantage. Six doubled batteries, six doubled batteries. Do they even make those? Do they even they make those, what are those? What is a double D battery? I don't know.

Dick DeBartolo (02:35:19):
<Laugh> but the formulate it's kind of fun. It sort of replaces the long range, water pistols. So you fill it with foam. You pull back on it and it shoulds video

Leo Laporte (02:35:29):
Of at the fair buried in foam. Wow. Wow. No foam mania. I think

Dick DeBartolo (02:35:37):
This is, and, and the, the the FOMO later, I said, how much is this? And she said $15. And I said, wholesale. She said, no, it's $15 at total.

Leo Laporte (02:35:48):
What's the difference between FOA later in the FOMO ranch,

Dick DeBartolo (02:35:52):
The FOMO later is for you to carry around.

Leo Laporte (02:35:55):
Oh, it's like a gun, a

Dick DeBartolo (02:35:56):
Foam gun. It's like a gun. It's. It's like, it's like a big

Leo Laporte (02:35:59):
Warrior gun. So you shoot foam at people.

Dick DeBartolo (02:36:01):
Yes, exactly. You shoot like a, like a three foot section of foam. Oh

Leo Laporte (02:36:05):
My God. Is it just, so what is it? Does it taste soap cute. Yeah.

Dick DeBartolo (02:36:10):
Yeah. It is. It is a, it is a, a nontoxic concentrate. You get like three or four ounces with each.

Leo Laporte (02:36:17):
Could you use, just use your, I just put some Dawn in there, Dawn in there. Yeah.

Dick DeBartolo (02:36:21):
You know what? No, because they said that this is treated so it doesn't hurt if it gets in your eyes. Oh,

Leo Laporte (02:36:27):
So I see these baby

Dick DeBartolo (02:36:28):
Don't as a matter of fact I, I said, I'm gonna wash my glasses in the foam. And she said, do that,

Leo Laporte (02:36:35):
Go ahead. That

Dick DeBartolo (02:36:36):
And I had no problem. If we put this at the front door, then maybe we could have guests in the studio again, cuz they would

Leo Laporte (02:36:41):
Be clean, foamed them foam foam them on the way in don't mind us, this is just a sanitary procedure and procedure to formulate them. That would be great. This is really cool. Is this really look, is this from what company is this?

Dick DeBartolo (02:37:00):
You know what? I don't even remember. I think the, the company's called mania

Leo Laporte (02:37:05):
Mania. I'm immediately buying this for my niece. Now that I think about it. She love so much, especially for summer. What a great

Dick DeBartolo (02:37:13):
To be aware. That it's way more expensive on Amazon. I think it's one of those products where Amazon doesn't carry it and people buy it in the store. Oh yes. And then put it on and then sell it on Amazon for like I, I saw the $40 a

Leo Laporte (02:37:28):
For 50. It looks like their booth is right next to Barbie dream house. You should formate Barbie dream house. Just see what happens. <Laugh> wow. Wow. This looks so much fun. So what were you, what are you gonna get the FOMO later or the FOMO ranch?

Dick DeBartolo (02:37:41):
<Laugh> no, I went the FOMO LAN for the backyard.

Leo Laporte (02:37:44):
Yeah. Fill the backyard with foam or five pickup trucks. Very nice.

Dick DeBartolo (02:37:50):
Well, I don't have enough money to buy the five pickup trucks.

Leo Laporte (02:37:52):
Yeah. Right. So stick with the backyard. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I love this. If you wanna know more, Dick's got all the deeds on his website and you're saying don't get it from Amazon.

Dick DeBartolo (02:38:03):
No, no.

Leo Laporte (02:38:04):
You got a target on

Dick DeBartolo (02:38:06):
Here. Target. Target is target. Had the lowest price I saw. Okay. Walmart will probably have it two at, at a low price.

Leo Laporte (02:38:13):
Yeah. All the kids are gonna have formators this year. This is

Dick DeBartolo (02:38:16):
The, oh, I think so. The gift of the summer, I think they on to something. My niece says I just ordered it.

Leo Laporte (02:38:21):
How long lasting is the foam?

Dick DeBartolo (02:38:23):
My sister's gonna kill

Leo Laporte (02:38:24):
Me. This is a new game. Let's get Mike to buy it. Micah likes everything.

Dick DeBartolo (02:38:29):
Oh, this is good.

Leo Laporte (02:38:30):
That's good. If you wanna see more is the website. Click the button that says the GWiz visits. The Tech Guy, big blue button. G I Z w I Z dot B Iz while you're there. You can also click the button that says, what the heck is it brand new? What the heck is it? Contest? Start at the beginning of the month. Looks like a giant blue formulator. Actually. I don't know what it is. Wow. Close up picture of a gizmo or a gadget. Identify it. You're in the running for six autographed mad magazines. Even if you can't identify it, we just come with some clever, you know, fake answer. And you're in the running for 12 autograph copies of mad magazine autographed by this guy right here. Dick T Bartolo. Fabulous. And of course don't forget his website for the podcast gives is the same. It's just instead of Perfect. I think you should fundamentally Manhattan. How long would that take?

Dick DeBartolo (02:39:29):
Boy, we're gonna need about a million and a half of these <laugh>

Leo Laporte (02:39:34):
If, if it, okay, this is a good math question. If a foam, if a foal LAN can fill five pickup trucks in 25 minutes, how long would it take to fill Manhattan?

Dick DeBartolo (02:39:44):
Somebody out there do the mess. I think you should start it with just filling a subway tunnel.

Leo Laporte (02:39:47):
A subway tunnel. A Lincoln tunnel. Oh that no, I, you know, you're gonna get in trouble with a secret service here. We better not do that. Let's not foam anything. Okay. Stay foam in your own home.

Dick DeBartolo (02:39:57):
There you go.

Leo Laporte (02:39:58):
Foam home foaming foam at home foam at home. It's the new thing. All the kids are doing it. And mic a two. Did you, you got it for your niece. I got it for my niece. Nice. How old is she?

Dick DeBartolo (02:40:08):
She is three.

Leo Laporte (02:40:09):
Oh, is it okay for kids as three? She plays with bubble machines up. It says, well, someone will be there with yeah, exactly. She won't be doing it alone. It'll be okay. Yeah, exactly. She doesn't eat bubbles. So I think this'll be okay. <Laugh> exactly as Dr. Mom says, I think your kid is in the foam home, home, home. Dick DeBartolo. Thank you so very much. Okay, buddy. I'll see you next week. A great week. Bye. Bye Dick. He didn't get me this time. He got you. He got me ah, caught in the scatter. I got got, oh, Mikah Sargent. Thank you so much for being here. It was a great day. So much more fun with you here. Thank you. Come back again next week. I will be here tomorrow. I think it's professor Laura in the living room with the lead pipe.

Leo Laporte (02:40:57):
<Laugh> no, with all of our music, our musical director, Laura, thank you so much. Thanks to Kim Shafer our phone angel. She's answering all your calls and of course your calls and your, your ears. Now, the reason we do this show, thank you so much for listening each and every week. I'll be back next time. I hope you will too. Leo LaPorte, Mica, Sergeant your Tech Guys. Wait a minute. I still got 20 seconds. Laura, can you speed? Time up so awesome. I'll be one of those DJs that starts talking <laugh> real slow. Thanks everybody. Have a great gig week. Take care. Well, that's it for the Tech Guy show for today. Thank you so much for being here and don't forget twit T I T it stands for this, including the podcasts for this show. We talk about windows and windows weekly, Macintosh, a Mac break, weekly iPads, iPhones, apple watches on iOS today. Security and security. Now, I mean, I can go on and on and on. And of course the big show every Sunday afternoon, this week in tech, you'll find it all at and I'll be back next week with another great Tech Guy show. Thanks for joining me. We'll see you next time.

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