Ask the Tech Guys 2014 Transcript
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00:00 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, hey, hey, hey. It's time for Ask the Tech Guys. I'm Leo Laporte Coming up our home theater. Geek Scott Wilkinson explains the real reason Walmart wants to buy Vizio.
00:09 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And I'm Micah Sargent, and we help an author figure out how to create an audiobook.
00:14 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And then I'll show you the perfect photo frame for Grandma. It's all coming up. Next, on Ask the Tech Guys. This is Ask the Tech Guys with Micah Sargent and Leo Laporte, episode 2014,. Recorded Sunday, march 3rd 2024.
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02:16
We've got Scott Wilkinson coming up your home theater, geek. Yes. We've got Johnny Jett, your traveling guy, Zoom, zoom. We've got questions. We've got videos. We've got all sorts of stuff. We have a couple of products to show you. It's going to be a good one. 888-88724. 2884 is a phone number. If you're watching the show live between 11 and 2 Pacific time, 2 to 5 PM Eastern time on a Sunday, you can call it number and get through.
02:46 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
8887242884 or you can zoom us. You can. You can zoom us by going to calltwitchtv on your device of choice. You can use a phone. We suggest that, because it's got the camera built in. It's got the microphone right there built in. It's a great way to get connected. You can also do that from your computer. You'll be taken to a Zoom room where you will hang out and wait to have yourself brought up on stage where you'll be able to ask your question.
03:14
We do ask that, if you are hanging out in the Zoom room, that you look toward the bottom of the UI, the user interface, for a little hand. Tap or click on that hand. That's the raise hand button. That lets us know that you do genuinely have a question for us and that you're not simply hanging out, which is fine. You can hang out if you'd like to. When you call that number, you actually also appear there too, but you don't have to worry about hitting that hand button. Instead, when you're brought up, you need to hit star six or asterisk six to be unmuted, so that you can actually ask your question. The other way to get in contact with us is atgtv. That's the email that you can send text, video, audio. All those kinds of questions can go there as well. I'm going to ask our intrepid producer if he wouldn't mind bringing up Zoom on this monitor over here for me so that I can keep an eye on things I want to see what's going on in the Zoom room.
04:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Now. This is a jam-packed show, so we're going to get right to it. First of all, I usually save the sad for the end, but I didn't want to really make this one the end, Because one of our heroes, our great friends, a guy we really love, passed this week at the age of let's see 83. You may have noticed that we use these microphones everywhere on our shows and many of our contributors are also using these microphones. I discovered these microphones in 2006. John, you were with me, no, in Ontario, california, at the podcast expo. I think it was the second podcast expo in 2006, and we won the best podcast for Twitter, I think and this was the prize. I thought, oh, how nice a microphone. I have hundreds of these, but I connected it up and I started talking into it and I said this is the best microphone I have ever used.
05:16
And that's when I met the guy in a purple blazer named Bob Heil. Bob was a legendary. He was an interesting fellow. I read his obituary, by the way, on the funeral home site and I learned something, a lot that I didn't know. For instance, he began performing his you know, he was a great organist and at the age of 15, he became a professional playing on the Woolitzer Theatre Organ at the fabulous Fox Theatre in St Louis. Stan Kahn was his teacher and mentor. Legendary organist. So he was a great organist. So he was a Missourian.
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Yeah yeah, oh yeah, he's, oh yeah, he's where I'm from. Yeah, he he sorry, it says in the obituary, because he had to tune this giant warlitzer with all of its pipes, thousands, literally of pipes. He was taught, it says, how to listen mentally, dissecting discrete tones, and that led him to his second career, which I mean he started building pipe organs. But he, the second career really was. He opened Ye Olde Music Shop, a professional music shop in Marisa, illinois, eventually became the company Heil Sound, and rock and roll musicians started to come to him In fact if you watch our triangulation with Bob, he does tell this story started to come to him and ask him to design their sound systems. He designed for the Grateful Dead, he did the Quadrophonic Sound for the who's Quadrophenia. Wow, because the Grateful Dead came to St Louis in February 1970 without a sound system. They went to Ye Olde Music Shop and Bob said I'll set you up. He provided his sound system and from then on Bob joined the Grateful Dead on the road, toured with the who in their tour which I saw in 1971, the who's Next tour.
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He also invented something that you'll probably know well if you loved the album which was at the time the number one album called Frampton Comes Alive. Do you remember Peter Frampton going oh, I'm walking. Yes, yes, it was a talk box. Bob tells a story that Frampton's wife said I need something for Peter's birthday, can you come up with something? And Bob made what was called the Heil Talk Box, which was a hollow tube, into a little amplifier that the guitarist had put in his mouth. It would play the music from the guitar into the tube, which he would then shape with his mouth into the microphone, and it gave it that. Wow, oh no, so he was able to talk with his guitar. It made Frampton Comes Alive the number one album in 1976.
08:06
I vividly remember that sound. It was like I've never heard anything like this. Joe Walsh later picked it up with the Eagles. It's, in fact, the only manufacturer featured in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland because of that. I can go on and on. He was really a legend, but we know him best as a ham radio operator. He'd become a ham at the age of 13. His call sign, k9eid, was his call sign for his entire life. He built transmitters and he got into the microphone business because he hated the sound of ham microphones at the time. So he said I'm going to build a better microphone.
08:45 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I love that when people get into a business, because they get into something, because there's something they want to fix.
08:50 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You know what I mean. I love that.
08:51 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Exactly, that's great.
08:52 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So we had, of course, bob was the originator, along with Gordo, of our Ham Nation show back 2011 when we started that. That's why we have the whole radio corner over here with a ham radio kit and all of that from ICOM. And Bob was a great Elmer for hams like me, getting me started in the ham and the amateur radio field and, of course, very much a teacher and a leader in ham for many, many years. Hile Sound makes all our microphones. We'll continue to make all our microphones, but Bob Hile passed after about a year's battle we knew he was not doing well with cancer this week at the age of 83.
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Rip to the great Bob Hile. I'm sure he's up there in his purple choir outfit, making the heavenly choir sound so much better. We will miss you, bob, one of the greats in our business and in many businesses Really a legend. Thank you, bob, and lots of love to his wife and family that he leaves behind. His wife was quite devoted and a wonderful, wonderful person. We miss them. We're going to send some flowers in your behalf to the family, all right, but there's also news.
10:14 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, actually, to keep it a little bit in the sad space but not entirely I did want to briefly mention the FTC. Federal Trade Commission has come together, as they always do, and announced kind of data of the previous year of how scams and all spams and everything in between kind of went down and, according to the FTC, in 2023, people lost $10 billion this past year. Oh my God, and that's just people who admit it Exactly. Yes, those are the people who file the complaints, exactly. What's interesting is this is a billion dollars more than the year before, but the same number of reports. So what they're seeing is an increase in how much money people are losing. And I wanted to mention because all of you out there, if you directly have not been impacted by something like this, you probably know someone who has they've attempted to be impacted by, they've had an attempt against. We all have.
11:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I mean, I don't think there's anyone listening who hasn't gotten that text message that says hey, I can't make it to my dentist appointment tonight. Can you reschedule? Or, bob, are you ready for lunch, or whatever.
11:26 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
My mom literally just texted me last night and said Is this a scam? And it was a fake USPS.
11:32 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, that's a big one.
11:33 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Your package wasn't delivered, yeah it's very popular around gift giving holidays in particular. So I wanted to mention the biggest scam of 2023 was the imposter scam. That is where they pretend to be your bank's fraud department. They pretend to be the government, perhaps a relative in distress, a well known business or a technical support expert. We've seen those scams try to crop up here, with people attempting to come off as if they're Lisa, and then we know no, that's not Lisa.
12:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That was just another one last week.
12:05 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, they're back again. And then the second one is investment scams and, as you might imagine, a big part of that is cryptocurrency. So this is just kind of your reminder that it ain't what it seems. No, it ain't what it seems. Continue to be skeptical and continue to remind your family to be skeptical. More than anything else, Continue to remind your family to be skeptical. I found it interesting that, again of the people who reported and who actually reported their age in the report, younger adults ages 20 to 29 reported losing more money more often.
12:47 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Because they think they're immune. Then the older adults.
12:50 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I'm smarter.
12:50 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm not going to fall for this.
12:52 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
The unfortunate thing is with the younger adults. They were losing smaller amounts of money. Older adults lost more money than younger adults, so it tended to be kind of larger amounts of money that were lost.
13:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So yeah, and if you're wondering who does this watch Sundays last week tonight you can see it on YouTube John Oliver did a really good segment on that thing called Pig Butchery oh yeah, which is those text messages that you get, and instead of yelling at the person who's sending you the message or messing with them, watch the segment, because it turns out these people are also victims. They're held basically in internment camps, their passports taken away, beaten and forced to perpetrate these scams on you for the bad guys. It's a shocker. New York Times exposed this six months ago, but I think it's great that John Oliver did his usual treatment of this and it's worth watching or maybe even sharing with family and friends. Pig Butchering is another one of those big scams. We all get those text messages, yeah.
13:54 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I'm going to keep an eye on those and anytime kind of a new one crops up, I will bring it up on the show so we can kind of talk about it and you can tell your family about it.
14:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's one of our jobs, actually is to let you know what's going on out there. What to be on the lookout for the other job is to buy stuff late at night on Instagram. I don't know if you knew that was my job. I'm very good at it, you are super, so congrats.
14:14 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I hope you get a promotion. You want to touch me. Is that the sweater?
14:17 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I've been waiting for the seaweed sweater. You know what I love it. Is it soft, yeah, Go ahead. Just you know, it's not Basically the reason I've been looking for this.
14:27 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I couldn't tell the difference between that and wool.
14:29 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah. So the reason I'm looking for this is Lisa is deathly allergic to wool. She gets hot breaks out in hives. I mean really, once we went to try on a cashmere dress she didn't know it was cashmere. She said, ah, get this off of me. And she had hives up and down her back because she's I mean, instantly reacts. So I'm looking for something because I love wool. I have wool. You know, before I met my wife I had wool blankets, wool sweaters, wool socks, wool, everything. So I'm eliminating the wool from my life, but I love wool. So I was looking for something. So I asked her to touch this. She said, well, it's scratchy, but I'm not reacting allergically to it. But to me it is. It's just like a nice thin wool sweater. So Dr Mom said that this fabric, this, it's not a fabric. This textile is called sea cell. It's made out of seaweed harvested in Iceland. So she's clean waters, sea cell, sea cell by the Icelandic shore.
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And then sea cell is. This is from a company called Oliver Charles, but there are other companies as well. Oliver Charles. Oliver Charles, and I think it's a very nice sweater. I purposely ate in it, which meant food was dribbled down the front. I washed it the task and it's washed. It didn't do any. I didn't dry clean it. It's washed as beautifully.
15:45 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Are those corduroy pants? They have like a sort of vertical striping to them. Do you want me to talk about my Instagram pants?
15:52 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Those are Instagram? Of course they are. What is it Instagram?
15:56 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
today, the shoes, the pants, the ring on your finger.
15:59 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I see that's my new ring. Well, that's another story for another day, but Lisa gave me that I lost my great great grandfather's snake ring when I was in eighth, seventh or eighth grade. My grandmother gave it to me, foolishly, as it turns out. Oh yeah, that's young.
16:17 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You shouldn't give it to a kid.
16:17 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Give it to a kid, beautiful gold ring with a ruby head and I think actually it was a diamond head and ruby eyes. It was beautiful and I put it in my locker in the gym and somebody stole it. Somebody saw me. Oh, that's so frustrating and I stole it. Some other kids, some annoying kids, probably disappeared. My wife I told Lisa about it some while ago. She found one for me. Oh, and it's 18, it's from 1887. It's vintage, it's. They shine it up too much. I have to turn it. Yeah, it's kind of wear it to me, but it's vintage, it's 1887. That's so cool, and it is almost identical to my great grandfather's snake ring.
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So thank you, lisa, I have a very nice wife.
16:51 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I I it gave. It was giving heirloom, so that's why I was it is, it is. It's one of those estate sales.
16:57 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, as long as we've digressed, let's talk a little bit about the news. There's only really two stories worth talking about. We'll talk about more today on Twitter Twitter, because she was just coming up Got Taylor Lawrence is coming by and others, but we will, I'm sure, be talking about the fact that Apple has gotten out of the car business. Kind of a shocker.
17:18 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, we were caught off guard. For sure. This is something that they have been working on for quite some.
17:23 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Never announced.
17:24 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, rumored to be working on for quite some time a large team again allegedly a very large team that was working on it and we've seen again alleged reported shuffles of the team. So to hear that suddenly they've decided again reportedly not to go forth with the car After there were reported changes that originally it was going to be a self-driving electric vehicle. Then they thought, okay, maybe we'll ditch the self-driving component and we're just going to make an electric vehicle. And now to see them again reportedly make an announcement within the company saying the self-driving car project Titan is closing down and we're going to take some of the team and move them to our generative AI efforts.
18:16 - Caller 1 (Caller)
That's it.
18:17 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You know, when you never announce something and it's all rumors to begin with, and then another rumor is you're not going to make it. Did it ever exist, right?
18:26 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
If Project Titan falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it?
18:30 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Did it ever exist? You know, the New York Times had a good story which said basically it was a debate about whether they really wanted to make. They wanted to beat Tesla. This is always a mistake when a company says and Apple never did this in the past. We're going to get those guys Right. They wanted to beat Tesla and what they wanted to do was do what's called level five auto self-driving. Their initial design didn't have a steering wheel, didn't have brakes, didn't have pedals.
18:54 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's not so frightening to me. They couldn't do it.
18:57 - Leo Laporte (Host)
They can't do it today, yeah. And eventually it's like well, okay, I guess we could make a car. That that was the rumor a month ago. Okay, we give up on that, we're going to make a normal car Then they realized well, there's no money in that?
19:09 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Why yeah? Why do that?
19:10 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Why would we do that? We're not beating Tesla, so screw it. So I think Tim Cook just said on the memo he said Apple car, screw it.
19:18 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I can only have one risky project going at the same time.
19:23 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Although rumors are the bit, risenbow is selling very, very well, better than expected.
19:27 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, and returns are down to 1%, according to reports. Good news. Did you return ours. Yeah, ours was. I just got the email the other day that said you got it.
19:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You had till the leap day to make it.
19:39 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was a little worried because I sent it in much earlier and I kept waiting for that email to come in. Finally, I got it from Apple. He said, oh, we've got it, we're good to go 888-724-2884 is the phone number.
19:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
888-724-8ttg Is that right? I didn't make that up. Nope, I didn't have a dream that that was the number. Okay, good, that is truly the number, and if you get in, hang in there, we'll get to you. We see we have quite a few callers. What would you like to start with? Super producer John Ashley. Welcome back, by the way. We missed you last week.
20:18 - John Ashley (Other)
Thank you, I just picked up on Anthony. I'm just going to make sure that he's all set.
20:23 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Anthony, anthony, come into the. Stargate Move that giant. I'm going to explain what this giant battery is when I do my show and tell later, hi, anthony.
20:35 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Hi, leo and Micah, can you hear me okay?
20:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
We can hear you great. Where are you calling from today?
20:40 - Caller 2 (Caller)
I'm calling from Silver Lake, california. Oh, my goodness, I'm on screen.
20:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You're on in the Stargate. Welcome to the show. What's?
20:49 - Caller 2 (Caller)
up Anthony. Well, I need to take issue. First of all, I think you both rank right up there with the best comedians I've ever heard.
20:58 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Now you're joining us because that was hilarious.
21:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
We should explain that we, before the show began, we ran an email from disgruntled listeners that cut the comedy. You're not funny, so thank you, Anthony, that's very kind. Thank you, anthony.
21:11 - Caller 2 (Caller)
And my daughter, who's 21 now probably for 15 years at dinner parties with, if ever somebody asked me well, anthony, what's one of your hobbies? Oh, the tech guy, leo LaPorte. Oh, thank you. And we actually have a picture with you at the Brick House, leo, oh nice.
21:30 - Leo Laporte (Host)
How old was she?
21:30 - Caller 2 (Caller)
I'm in there.
21:31 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That must have been eight years ago. She must have been just a kid.
21:35 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Yeah, well, she was a kid. Yeah, she was a kid. Nice, you know I'm in love with Leo, but, man, I'm falling in love with you.
21:43 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Isn't he great? Thank you, isn't he great. He's fantastic. Thank you so much.
21:47 - Leo Laporte (Host)
We searched long and why we had a big talent search. They had to sing and dance and tell jokes. Yeah, and from the flyover state.
21:55 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's where we found that guy.
21:56 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah we found this guy. We never thought we would. He got the golden ticket to come to Hollywood and no we're. We're so lucky to have Micah here, I agree.
22:06 - Caller 2 (Caller)
The dynamic duo. So, um, I was wondering about how best to do a audio book, um, and wondering if you can actually do something like that using the iPhone. You know their voice memo thing or um to record an audio book yourself.
22:24 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Is what you're saying.
22:26 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Yeah, I did this crazy thing and wrote it and wrote a book for the first time.
22:29 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Congratulations.
22:32 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Tell us about your book. Wow, um. It's called the old ones. Three words, the old ones, um. By Anthony Henderson, available on Amazon. Congratulations, that's great Self published, self published, and you know what? Um, if I ever had any bad things to say about uh, jeff there, the, uh, that guy who owns Amazon, I take it all back.
22:57 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, they make it easy, don't they?
22:59 - Caller 2 (Caller)
It was fantastic. Kvp Kindle direct publishing was was absolutely amazing. Oh there, you got it. There it is Now.
23:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I noticed it's on Kindle unlimited, which means I can read it for free because I subscribe. Do you mind if I do that, or should I buy it? Do you get? Do you get? Do you get paid for Kindle unlimited?
23:17 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Um, yeah, but the paperback is a little bit better profit, you know, for profit, and plus you know you're holding a paperback and that experience is a little bit different, though I love. I love my Kindle as well.
23:28 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah so this is exciting. This is great. Is it sci-fi?
23:33 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Well, no, you know, what I wanted to do is to uh give an LGBTQ voice to enslaved Americans. Wow.
23:43 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Um, you didn't bite off a little bit, you bought off a big bite Leo, I, I.
23:49 - Caller 2 (Caller)
I was a crazy person, so I.
23:54 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Self published a book about L the LGBTQ experience in enslaved America. Holy cow, that book's going to get banned in every step for many reasons. No, I think this sounds wonderful. This sounds like a story that needs to be told right now.
24:12 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Well, and I also deal with mental illness in there too, Cause that, you know, the LGBTQ angle wasn't enough, so I have a mental illness in there too. Wow, and you know it's my fixed family that I, you know, personally fell in love with and you know you'll read some reviews on there, and other people seem to have fallen in love with that family too. So it's obviously very close to my heart and I thank you guys so much for putting it up. I absolutely appreciate it.
24:41 - Leo Laporte (Host)
The old ones by Anthony Henderson, buy it.
24:44 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So to go to your question be nice to see.
24:47 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You've got Kindle Unlimited. You've got paper back. Wouldn't it be nice to have?
24:52 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
an audible button there. Here's the thing. If you I think that if you had just said, oh, you know, I'm sort of playing around, I'm thinking about you know, doing an audio book it wasn't necessarily a book that was published on you know and available on Amazon and has a paperback, like all of that Then I would have let you settle for just using your iPhone and the Voice Memos app. But I'm not going to let you sell. We got to do a little better than that. We got to do better than that because you want this to sound good. You want this to be something that people find just as valuable as the book. You don't want to give them to start listening to the audio book and then go oh, I can't, I can't stick with this, because the audio is hard to listen to or has right.
25:37
Yeah, I mean like you want to give your, your material, the best shot that it has, and, and so because of that, I think that in this case it is worth Making some level of investment. Not a lot, yeah, it doesn't have to be a lot, just some level of investment where you have a microphone that is separate from the device that's recording, so that you are able to isolate that sound and make sure that little taps on the table or whatever else is happening around you isn't causing issues. And there's one place you can go if you kind of want to go all in one doesn't require a whole lot of extra work, and then we'll hear Leo's take, because I know it's going to be different from mine. So my suggestion for you if you just want to go with something that's as easy as possible kind of you don't have to do a whole lot. Elgato has started to make really good quality microphones. That's Elgatocom E-L-G-A-T-Ocom and they had.
26:43 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Yes, I'm sorry, I thought I had a note in front of me.
26:46 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm going to run, no, no no, no, we'll put this in the show notes, you don't?
26:50 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
have to.
26:50 - Leo Laporte (Host)
We'll have it for you in the show notes and then we'll send you a framed copy of your call, so you'll have it all You'll have it all.
26:56 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, Afterwards you could go to twittv slash ATG. Thanks guys. And only pay $4.95 for shipping and handling.
27:05 - Caller 2 (Caller)
So you got it, you got it.
27:07 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Elgato makes a microphone called the Wave 3. And this is a microphone that our producer and editor, Anthony Nielsen, uses on the regular.
27:17 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
No kidding.
27:18 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, and a lot of streamers, people who play video games and stream, they use these microphones. It's kind of the choice of the Twitch crowd, exactly the Twitch community. So with that, it's a very simple device. You can plug it into your computer and then do the recording there. Now, leo, I'm wondering if you're going to suggest Zoom here's what I'm going to say.
27:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Anthony, you could record it yourself. That's the cheapest, easiest way to do. It May not produce a version that Audible wants to pick up, but you know, just like Amazon has its direct, which you use to publish. There's ACX. Do you know about ACX?
28:00 - Caller 2 (Caller)
No, I've never heard of it.
28:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
ACX is the Audible equivalent of Amazon Direct Publishing. If you're already in the Amazon chain which you are it's a very simple thing then to go to ACX. The Audible what do they call it? The Audible Creators Exchange, I guess, Audiobook creation exchange, Audiobook, but it's for Audible. Okay, Because Amazon owns Audible. Right, and show my screen if you would, John Ashley. So this is all that you need to know and, I think, a better way to do it.
28:35
It's the same thing that you just did for your book as audio Now the one thing that they suggest and I think they're not wrong is you can be a narrator and do it yourself, and they'll give you some suggestions and so forth, but you can also hire narrators. They have freelance narrators that you can use, and look a lot of people there's more than 292,000 titles that have been published this way. Wow, Okay.
29:03 - Caller 2 (Caller)
So it depends.
29:05 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You already pursued the process of publishing yourself with Amazon. This is just the audiobook version of it, and they have some narrators that you might want to look at. That might be perfect for this. It really depends. I would suggest, before you do a lot of investment into setting up a studio for yourself, that you just look at what they're recommending, because I want you to sound as good as possible, right To reach the largest audience.
29:38
I don't want you to spend a lot of money, but I suspect, because it comes from Amazon, it's going to be similar to the Amazon Direct Publishing.
29:49
By the way it puts it, not only on Audible and Amazon, but it also has a lot of content on Amazon, but it also sends it to iTunes, so it's a way to reach the largest possible audience and I think, given what your book is about, that's really. I suspect you wrote it not just as an exercise and fun, but you really had a message and you want to get that message out. Amen, and I think that this is a very important message, frankly. So this might be the way to do it. They have lots of information about how to do it and including an article, as you can see here, of setting up your own home recording studio. They may be a little fancier than what Mike had just described yes, indeed, but I have to say there's a standard of quality that Audible's going to expect and you want to meet that standard. Otherwise they may say, well, you got to go back and do it again, or so forth.
30:46 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It's kind of like Netflix doesn't just take any movie. You got to meet their standards.
30:51 - Leo Laporte (Host)
They describe it at this website. They describe the M Audio recording bundle, the Personus audio box bundle, this Focus Rate Scarlet which we sent out to many of our people, but I think also the Elgato would be of the same quality in there. So there's a lot of information there. There's also information maybe even more important than the technology of recording yourself of how to narrate, and there's a very good.
31:18 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, it is a learned skill. Yeah, there's a very good article.
31:21 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Actually, it's a series of videos that they offer called Performance, the Craft of Audio Book Narration, which I mean honestly. I've done audio books. I did one for Audible, a short one, and then I did one for Corey, a doctor, and it's very, very hard and I'm going to have 50 years as an announcer. It's a very hard thing to do to get right. So at least watch this. There's a master class with real audiobook narrators. They will walk you through what you need. It's acting, it is and in your book, especially because you have all these great characters.
31:57 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You really want them to come to life.
32:00 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Well, it's interesting that you say that, because it's narrative as well as dialogue heavy, so you might want actors.
32:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You might want more than one performer, right.
32:14 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Yeah, and I did it for 10 years and I trained to do that for about 10 years. Oh, all right, I got to experience in that area and what has really been fun is, just, frankly, learning how to do all this stuff. You know.
32:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So definitely check out. The audiobook creators exchange Lots of good information there. If you already are an actor, you know you're in good shape. See, being an announcer wasn't really good training for this. Being an actor is the training you want. And if you look at who's narrating for Audible, it's almost all actors, not announcers. Announcers talk like this. Actors really embody the character that the book is narrating. So, yeah, you may need it. You know what. You've got some friends to come in and be the different voices for the characters. But if you do a good job of this, I think Audible will pick it up like that. This seems like something you really do want to get out there. I think that's great. The old ones, Anthony Henderson. I can't wait to read it.
33:23 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I know Mike has already bought it.
33:25 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Mine's on the way, wow, and I think this is a very exciting idea and I want you to make it a great audiobook Agreed.
33:36 - Caller 2 (Caller)
I'm going to do your point, leo and Mike. I will absolutely move aside to put the best. I guess the best voice forward is the best way to say it.
33:47 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And it might be you. Please don't think it's you. It might well be you.
33:53 - Caller 2 (Caller)
But I think what you're both saying is that I just want it to be as good as it can be.
34:00 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Because this book is important and you have an important story to tell and you want to make sure that people don't miss the point by saying I can't, I don't understand what he's saying, or you know, it's oh, I like it, but there's so much noise in the background, or whatever. You want to present it to them in a way that that gets out of the way, so they can hear what you're saying.
34:20 - Caller 2 (Caller)
And you know real quickly and I know we have to go the reason I wanted to do an audiobook is because I'm hearing from so many people that that's their preference in in, I want to say reading, but that's their preference in consuming I guess is a better way to say it Books. They actually prefer an audio, an audio version of it. So I was just thinking that, yeah, you know something I got to do here.
34:48 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, especially since you have these different characters you have a narrator, but you have these different characters I think it could come to life. You know, I think it'd be. I think maybe your background in theater has helped you, because you're writing almost writing a play. It sounds like.
35:02 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Yeah, well, it's been, it's been a labor of love and I'm looking forward to, you know, taking it to, taking it to the next level.
35:11 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I'm so proud of you that you did this. Congratulations. This is great.
35:15 - Caller 2 (Caller)
You guys. Oh my goodness, we're feeding fast.
35:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
We just want to support it and say you know, let's do this, you know, let's get this thing done. That is awesome, fantastic, fantastic.
35:28 - Caller 2 (Caller)
Yeah.
35:28 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Hey, congratulations, Anthony.
35:30 - Caller 2 (Caller)
I can't wait, you're gonna be in your book and you're both very funny. How's?
35:33 - Leo Laporte (Host)
that Funny, looking Funny. How Do we amuse you? Thank you, anthony. Thanks so much. Okay, thank you Bye-bye. I never wanted to be funny, I only wanted to be mildly amusing. I figured that was the highest I could aspire to is mildly amusing at times.
35:52 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I just want to be entertaining.
35:53 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, yeah, I strive to be entertaining, and the worst thing in the world is somebody who tries to be funny.
36:00 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, that makes everybody uncomfortable, that's not good.
36:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
John Ashley, we have about 15 minutes before the great Scott Wilkinson home theater geek. Yeah, I think we could do another call we could do. I think we should take a break. Yeah, I think so too. And then you decide what we're going to do next. Should it be an email, a voicemail, a video or a call? You get to choose. Definitely a video question. Oh, you're really pushing it this time.
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38:59 - Caller 3 (Caller)
Hi guys. Christopher from Lakeland Florida, long time listener, first time caller, I'm trying to transition my family over to password management and I need a relatively quick and painless way to do that transition. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
39:17 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Oh, bless With a hammer Christopher from Florida.
39:21
If there was a painless way to do this, I hope that I would know it. It's hard in terms of. So okay, let me let me explain. If you're talking about convincing family to do it, it's difficult. If you're talking about you've already got them on board, you just need to sort of onboard them. I agree that the by saying I agree there's a chat in the Discord find whatever password manager you're going to use, bitwarden is a sponsor on the network. Look for the group plan and then work through the group plan, because the great thing about almost every password manager's group plan is that it comes with a nice little built-in feature where, if one of the people on your plan forgets their master password, you can kind of send them away to undo a boo boo.
40:13 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, that's nice yeah.
40:15 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So that is, that's my main suggestion. It gives you just a little bit more help for them, as they're getting used to password management, than you would otherwise have if everybody's kind of created their own account and then they're suddenly locked out of all of their passwords.
40:29 - Leo Laporte (Host)
This is a tough one, yeah, and I wish I could say I'd had some success in this. I have not. I set up my mom with last pass back in the day and it fell by the way. So this is the biggest, the biggest problem. So, first of all, we should explain why you want to do this, because your family members aren't using a password manager right now.
40:49
Whenever they need to make a password, they're reusing an existing password or they're trying to remember a slight modification to an existing password. They're trying to either remember their passwords which, by the way, any password you can remember is not a good password. Period, put that in writing. Any password you can remember is not a good password. It's certainly a degraded password over when you can. Secondarily, maybe they're not, maybe they're smart. They're writing it down. Okay, my mom had a lot of post-it notes that she had a book and at some point they're going to say I can't find it. I can't find it. The third thing they may which you know, frustrating the third thing they may be doing and, by the way, this is what comes after I can't find it is I don't remember my passwords. I just always say I forgot Yep.
41:42 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's their password. The password becomes that I forgot button. That's how they will do it.
41:46 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And then they go through the rigmarole of going to the email and getting the password reset.
41:50 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And getting so frustrated every time they're not going to use.
41:54 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I think the easiest kind of password to use to begin with is the one built into the browser. That's not our preference, but it's certainly better than anything else I just described. So if you could just get them to start letting the browser do it if everything's Apple that's the easy.
42:12 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's what I've gotten my family to do. They use iCloud's key, but they have to use Safari.
42:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
They can't use Firefox or Chrome. They have to use Safari. They have to use an iPhone and a Mac and an iPad. They have to be all in on Apple and they have to even down to the browser software. Right.
42:28 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yes and no. If you're doing it on the Mac, then yeah, you need it to do with the browser. If you're doing it on your phone, you could use another browser and iOS itself will suggest the password.
42:40 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So, even if you're using Firefox, focus on an iPhone. It will still suggest it.
42:44
Because it's still Safari, by the way. So it's all WebKit. So that's the pre-requisite they have to be Apple. But if they're using Chrome or Firefox or Opera or Brave or Safari or Edge all the normal browsers they will all have a checkbox, normally set by default, saying would you like me to remember passwords? The bad news of that is only enough for apps. It's only for where you're in a browser. But that's better than nothing, kids. So get them to start using the browser password manager and letting the browser suggest passwords. Trying people to move to a password manager is the single hardest thing.
43:29 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It almost always takes something bad happening to be that wake up call, they have to be freaked out.
43:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Or, as we say in AA, they have to hit bottom yeah, rock bottom, yeah, help me please. And you're their higher power. So you jump in and you say, okay, I got the answer, but you gotta follow the steps exactly.
43:49 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And then maybe the closest I ever got to getting someone on not just Apple's but to actually use the password manager that I use was my younger brother and he was on it for maybe two months and he said I don't want to do this.
44:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
It almost always falls by the wayside. I had to deal with my mom. Just hard, it's just hard. You know we just Lisa's dad, who's 81, 82, he had an iPhone 7. I took him to the T-Mobile store yesterday. We got him the iPhone 15 Pro, nice On set up. I have no hope that we will be able to get him to use a password manager. No period no.
44:34
He, like most of you, uses. You know the name of his third born child, birth date and mother's maiden name right in some Combination thereof. Because I know. Because when I say what's your password, he'll always tell me and it's the same one.
44:50 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So, yeah, I for some of my family members, I've just got it up here now at this point, I don't even have to ask them. Yeah, that's what it is.
44:56 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, that's the other thing you might want to do is help them on the important stuff. Make the password and store it in your pass.
45:02 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, and that's what I've done with my grandma actually.
45:05 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, so the same with my mom. Just, I don't remember my iCloud password and I'll say but I do, I have it, so it's. This is a hard one, you're doing the right thing. It is incredibly important that they stop reusing passwords. This is perhaps the single biggest security mistake people make. Yep.
45:24 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And it and most prevalent security mistake that people make.
45:27 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah there's no good. This is why people were saying, oh, we got to get rid of passwords, maybe past keys past keys is not any easier.
45:34 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
No, ask ease is not. It's. It's because it's so conceptually difficult to understand. That's what. I'm looking at it up as hard and then people wonder wait, do I still need a password? How, yeah it's? It's too messy right now and I don't know how that gets undone To get people into that headspace. And the Valby saying an interesting thing.
45:53 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Valby 789 in our discord. Well, no one's gonna brute force your father-in-law's password, that's true. That's not the problem. It's not brute forcing. That's the issue here. It's reuse Yep and password stuffing attacks. So if, as often happens, you know he used his password at, let's say, target, target had a big breach and all those passwords got leaked out. Now a bad guy is gonna try and you mostly automatically that password in a bunch of accounts, maybe father-in-law's bank account Then we got problems. So password reuse is the real issue. Not having a password that can't be cracked. That's really important to remember and their email account.
46:31 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And for those, people who use I forgot my password as their password. Suddenly, there's access to all of those accounts. Yeah, yeah, that's really true.
46:41 - Leo Laporte (Host)
The email is the first one to go. Yeah, so another thing to do with people who are not using passwords is Tell them to turn on two factor, because two factor is, in fact, even if you use a crappy password, like it's like having a good password and a bad password. So, and now that's hard, because you say, now you have to have this app, but at least it's kind of conceptually something they don't have to remember. They don't remember a master password, it's gonna the, they're gonna get a prompt that says what's your, what's your authentication password in your app and they have to remember to go to that. But I think that that is, by the way, adds a huge layer of security. Even if your password is monkey, one, two, three, having that second factor helps a lot. The vault door is open.
47:26 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
But there's a guard dog in front of that.
47:26 - Leo Laporte (Host)
This is, this is a huge challenge, and really it's a challenge For all of us, because we've got to get people to be more secure online, yep, or the whole thing collapses. Frankly, that's why we ten billion dollars. I really think that's the tip of the iceberg, because people aren't saying no, oh yeah, I lost five thousand, I'm gonna admit.
47:47 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Nobody's saying that they're not reporting it.
47:48 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No, so that ten billion dollars it was lost in fraud last year, it's probably a hundred billion dollars, yeah, and, and 90% of it is, you know, I mean some of its poor or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick or sick, or security management online. But your security management is a big one, yeah, okay, now it's time, ladies and gentlemen, to say hello to our home theater geek, mr Scott Wilkinsonian. Hello, scott, hello.
48:15 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Scott, hey Leo, hey Micah, it's good to see you, you too.
48:19 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I'm using that Hile microphone. Look at that. We all Hile.
48:23 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Microphile today? Yeah, I'm so. I was so sad to see that. You know I. Did you ever met him? Oh yeah, oh yeah, such a sweet times I went. I went to his NAB parties, oh yeah, that's right yeah, in the purple. Blazer yeah, such a sweet juice.
48:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, all I love to Sarah and his family because he was a great guy and I'm sure they're missing him Terribly.
48:49 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Oh, what a kind, generous Gentleman. I mean wow.
48:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So let's talk TVs today. First of all, walmart bought Vizio.
49:00 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Really, I didn't see that. When did you see that?
49:08 - Leo Laporte (Host)
The funniest thing, and now I don't think it's gone through yet, so it may not happen. You know, regulatory approval lasted, yeah, but they announced that they want to. They offered Vizio 2.3 billion dollars, but it's not for the TVs, it's for the advertising. That's why I bring this up.
49:28
They see a huge upside in owning Vizio TVs Because there's a lot of ad revenue from Vizio TVs and Walmart, of course, has its own ad network, so it's going to add their ad network to the existing Vizio Smartcast system, which has 18 million active accounts. That's why, by the way and this is the interesting thing and I think you to concur TVs are so cheap. They don't have to make money on the TV.
49:58 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Yes, yes, they. It's like printers. You know you can buy a printer dirt cheap.
50:04 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
They make it on the ink and can you imagine all the behavioral data that Walmart will have access to?
50:09 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
as well with their.
50:10 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Troves yeah, so you're gonna see on the Vizio. You already do. You see ads in the Vizio home screen, but you're gonna see more ads. Walmart will be selling those ads in their own network, so they make the revenue it makes a lot of a lot of sense.
50:24
Yeah, it's not that Walmart doesn't have its own brand. They already have what is it on and their own house brand TVs. Yeah, so you know, I don't know this isn't. Yeah, this isn't giving them something they don't have, it's just giving them the more of what they want.
50:41 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Well plus plus greater brand recognition of the TV. That's true, Cuz.
50:51 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It's on, isn't that, oprah's? Network. Is your TV on?
50:53 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
no it's on.
50:58 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm gonna turn on the TV. So yeah, Vizio is a much better brand and we like Vizio. We recommended for you for years. I don't know. I don't know what this does to Vizio is very good. We thought Speaker systems.
51:11 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
You mean like the soundbars and stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's a good question.
51:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Hopefully they keep investing in that Vizio TVs we learned in this process also includes something called content recognition. There it is technology. Which allows the company to quote understand your streaming preferences.
51:30 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
We see you're watching more iron chef. Would you like to buy this knife Exactly?
51:36 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
if, vizio, we're gonna see, we are gonna see more and more of that going forward. There's just no way around it.
51:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You know, and we've talked before, we've had questions. People have asked how do I get a dumb TV? I don't want all of that right, and all we could say is we'll just don't connect it to the internet and and hope that it continues to work. There will be a day, might not? That's right? There will be a day where TV will refuse to go on like some printers.
52:02 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Yeah, yeah yes, exactly, yeah, exactly. My wife and I just switched from HP to Canon printer because the HP wouldn't work unless it was connected to the internet. Yeah, so goofy.
52:14 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Oh.
52:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, Scott, I'm sure you didn't come here to answer our questions. Perhaps you came here to answer. I'm happy to do that.
52:22 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Well, what I had in mind was I don't know if you guys, you guys know the verge right. You probably read the verge. Last week. They had a really interesting Set of articles. They under the banner physical media week and they're talking about physical media and I, leo, you and I have talked many times about Physical media and the death thereof. But it may not be we. The reports of physical media's death may be premature. I got into it with one of these articles called the case for 4k blu-ray in a world of streaming, and the article talks about, for example, christopher Nolan releasing Oppenheimer on 4k blu-ray, ultra HD blu-ray, and it's sold out the as soon as it came out. It's sold out Interesting way.
53:25 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I'll just quickly on this topic. Interestingly, my partner has been really Aware of physical media lately and I've noticed the stream of DVDs have come into the home. No Player yeah, we do he all your PlayStation 5 but he, yes, but he actually bought a purpose built DVD player because the PlayStation is not connected to the projector.
53:49 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That we use.
53:50 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It's like buying a record player so you play the vinyl records and just the other day it's like, three DVDs came into the home and it's because he's complained about the fact that a lot of these weird tastes and so it's all stuff that's not available to watch anymore and streaming it's like.
54:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's gonna go away, I won't be able to have access to you guys buying it. You HD the blu-ray.
54:11 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
He the watch doesn't even come on you, yeah, well then it's very to me because I'm okay with streaming. Oh no.
54:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I understand the physics. This is the shame of digitization and I'm sure the Verge referred to this. A lot of movies don't make it to physical discs or streamer.
54:27 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
They just are lost, forever lost for it all time.
54:29 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, I remember when I first started hanging out with Steve Martin, I thought I better watch his movies before we hang out any longer. And because I didn't seen a lot of them, I couldn't find them. Yeah, couldn't find them. You had, and so Now they're all on streaming because Steve has a big hit TV show. So they're back on streaming. But you're really at the mercy of these companies who decide they can't digitize everything, they can't stream everything. There usually are more DVDs than there are you HD DVDs and more you HD DVDs than there are streaming.
55:00 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Mm-hmm, but right and the, the companies that stream, can Almost out of whim. Yep decide well, we're not gonna show that, we're not gonna offer that it can never take away your disc.
55:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, that's right.
55:12 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's this point. That's why he's been doing it, because we actually had that happen. We were watching a show and this wasn't like it. Quite literally right before the end of the episode, it seemed like the internet cut out. That's what I thought happened, and things started spinning and then I, we went back to it and then it wouldn't play anymore. And then I did some research, come to find out the license had ended and they didn't. Let us finish the episode of the In the middle of the episode it was the finale episode.
55:42
Was this on streaming or it is? This was on streaming. That's what I'm saying is wait a minute. What was the show it's? It was Australian survivor and CBS. Sorry you can't watch it anymore, yeah, right in the middle of the app or right in the foot.
55:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So you still don't know who's. You know the island.
55:58 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
We have ways of traveling.
56:00 - Leo Laporte (Host)
What turns people into pirates? Yes, by the way by the way.
56:04 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Well, I mean, no, I didn't pirate, because that's, that's a different thing.
56:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You VPN to a. I travel to Australia.
56:11 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You went to Australia.
56:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's what this, yeah, but they can't help it because the license agreement is separate. I mean, it's yeah exactly. For instance, you can't watch the classic show WKRP and Cincinnati Because the music was real music on it and they didn't license music and they had to license it from everybody. They have released really crappy versions with fake music. Oh that's awful.
56:40 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And the other thing too. You'll notice I've seen this a lot. Now There'll be a section in almost every streaming platform and it'll say here until March 30 at the here in this day. Yes, so that that you know that those deals are.
56:53 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
I get emails every month from from Netflix and and other other streamers that say Hurry up, watch this now, before it disappears. Yeah.
57:02 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So, but so yeah, I could see the case for for Blu-ray or even regular DVD.
57:07 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I love that pun. By the way, I don't think anyone's intending to make it, but the case because they come in. I could see the.
57:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Wasn't my intent. I'm not a coming up funny, I'm just. So Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer, he says, is better on 4k Blu-ray.
57:26 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Absolutely, and that's the other argument for for For physical media is AV quality See because the bit rate is better, it's higher, the Streaming's getting better, compression is getting better, so the gap between the quality of streaming and the quality of the disc is narrowing. But Christopher Nolan, anyway, talks a lot about how he spends. He, you know. Everybody thinks I'm all about the theatrical presentation, and I am. But I'm also equally about the home Presentation and we spend a lot of time on the 4k ultra HD Blu-ray of Oppenheimer to make it look as good as possible.
58:06 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So that's interesting, more so than was spent on the streaming version of it. Yes which I didn't control in any way.
58:13 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, exactly, and it's gonna be compressed and done However it needs to be across but it's too late, right?
58:20 - Caller 3 (Caller)
He says it's, you said it's sold out, yeah well, almost had me now, I might almost buy that and a DVD player.
58:31 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Certainly he this article also talks about. Yeah, you could you. If you have a PlayStation 5 or an Xbox X or whatever the latest one is, you know you've got a player in there too. But the, the Dedicated players, have an advantage. For one thing, you're not controlling the, the playback, with a game control. I know I always hate that, yeah, I hate that, yeah.
58:56 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So what do you have a recommendation for? I'm just looking on Amazon. They range in price. I remember they used to be very expensive from $189 to $422 $2.
59:10 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Panasonic. My first choice is always the Panasonic's okay, those are the more expensive ones.
59:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Thanks a lot 20.
59:16 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Oh, the Sony's are fine too.
59:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, I don't want fine if I'm gonna get back UHD. I want, I'm, you know, I want the best. The Panasonic has one for 200 and one for 400.
59:28 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I don't. One of them looks like it's an over-the-top TV as well, that one says see streaming 4k blue ray.
59:34 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, I don't care about streaming.
59:36 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, right exactly. The.
59:41 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
UB820 you have up there for 400 and some bucks, yeah, I believe supports Dolby vision and these, the less expensive one does not. Yes, you're right. However, there's one in between. You have a Samsung Quantum dot OLED.
59:57 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I do not support Dolby vision, so you that may not be an important feature for you. So now I have to buy a blu-ray player and a new TV.
01:00:09 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
No you don't have to. Dear. I thought there's one. Samsung TV that you bought is wonderful, but it doesn't support Dolby vision. That's the only thing.
01:00:22 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Now, how about my LG OLED in the bedroom that supports Dolby vision? That supports Dolby vision. So maybe that's where I put the.
01:00:31 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Depends on where do you watch movies more in bed or in the living room.
01:00:34 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Well, the bedroom one isn't in, it's in the. We have a little nook. So because we don't want to watch in bed I've heard that's bad for marriages so we only have it. We only have it in like a little little sweet on sweet, kind of little TV watching.
01:00:53 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I found that area for $250, get one that has HDR 10. Yes, which it?
01:00:59 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
so it just doesn't have Dolby vision, which is exactly what you right, hdr 10 is the is the table, or Rasa it's the base, by the way they're selling it.
01:01:06 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Looks like they're selling it with the Oppenheimer disc, but maybe the Oppenheimer disc even better.
01:01:11 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Yeah, I am gonna order the Oppenheimer disc and wait for it to come, because that should be a great demo.
01:01:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh and, by the way, I also need to buy HDMI 2.1 cables, right.
01:01:25 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
If you don't have Surely not, not necessarily.
01:01:30 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
no, not for 4k blu-ray, that's. I don't think 4k blu-ray is gonna Go above 18 gigabits, yeah the 2.1 is for 8k, correct, maybe I'll future.
01:01:41 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And this is another interesting point.
01:01:43 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
This is another interesting point. In the article there was at least one person who and I think they're right 4k blu-ray, ultra HD blu-ray, is probably the last physical format. There's not gonna be an 8k blu-ray, there's not. How do we know that? Well, we don't but super desk.
01:02:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I think we're future-proofing.
01:02:05 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
It's, it's, I think it's unlikely. Okay, I do because you know, by the time you get to 8k, I mean, yes, there are 8k TVs and they will become more per, more prominent, more prevalent, but you're getting past the, the resolution of the eye, if I want to Optimize my experience with my brand new TV and UHD player.
01:02:31 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, oppenheimer, the DV, the UHD DVD, to buy, certainly one of them. One of them. What else would you recommend? Um, well, I've heard bundling it with Dune, the first part. That's probably really good one too huh yeah, I watched them on streaming, both of them. I saw Oppenheimer in Imax.
01:02:54 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
I didn't know. That must have been awesome.
01:02:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, but I didn't like go home and say, oh geez, this streaming version is really subpar. It was very good. In fact, I preferred it because I could get up and go to the bathroom, right. Actually, I preferred it because I could get up, go to bed and watch the second half the next day, right it's three hours long three and a half hours long, yeah, okay.
01:03:16
Yeah, by the way, doesn't need to be that long, but that's another story. All right, so there, so they actually offering this is a bundle for a mere four hundred sixty nine dollars and ninety six cents.
01:03:27 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
I can get the Panasonic.
01:03:28 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, with the Dolby the one you talked about, the UHB thing. With the Dolby vision, yep, and the HDR 10, yeah, I could watch it in either room, but if I want Dolby based Dolby vision, that much better.
01:03:41 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Isn't it the same? I think Dolby vision is better than HDR 10.
01:03:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
What would Christopher Nolan do I?
01:03:49 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
bet you he would use Dolby. He'd say go to an Imax theater or build an Imax theater in your house. That's what he'd say.
01:03:57 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Our our wonderful a scooter X in our discord is giving me a link to the r slash 4k blu-ray on reddit reference quality material Lawrence of Arabia, the original blade, ruminer, the original 2001. These are yep, these are blu-ray movies that push 4k OLED technology to its max capabilities. According to this, there you go, some guy but this is one of the things you know you like about reddit the some guy, some guy says the expert the shining Indiana Jones trilogy, vertigo, suspiria, jaws planet, I see planet earth, one and two.
01:04:39
I know those, those are, those are watch, those in fact, when we got that, the projection TCL To review, that's what we watched on it. I know that because BBC took it down. So 1970, 2017, gemini man. This is the problem. A lot of people watch these movies for the quality, not of the movie yeah, not the content quality but of this I'm sure, I'm afraid I have to agree on Gemini man it.
01:05:06 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
The picture quality is stunning, stunning. How is the movie itself?
01:05:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
See, this is my problem. I'm watching the movie for the movie movie, yeah, mm-hmm as long as doing it wrong picture quality isn't so bad that you know. What I really hate and you've mentioned this before, scott is when you see banding in, like the dark areas or the Light areas, where they can't, yes, quite get a smooth gradient of yes. I hate that and you wouldn't see that on a good you HD with an ice-olet screen.
01:05:39 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Right, correct, correct you would see in that way aiming, which you may well. Yes, yes, there in this article they also mentioned, remember, that Game of Thrones episode that everybody complained about.
01:05:52 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, yeah.
01:05:54 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
On the on the UHD Blu-ray. It's not a problem. Yes, it was because of the streaming compression.
01:06:00 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's a. That's a really good point. It was really impossible to watch on streaming. Yeah, but do I really want to watch season 7? On no the revenant? Somebody said avatar, oh yeah that's.
01:06:14 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
That is again. I walked out of that movie just because it's so violent and brutal, but but the quality of the DVD is fantastic.
01:06:23 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I actually like the movie. It's the. I know you're talking about the part where he fights a bear, which is pretty nasty. That was nasty. Pretty realist, unfortunately, really Sadly so. Yeah, so yeah, one of my favorite, all-time favorite movies is Lawrence of Arabia, so I should have that on you.
01:06:41 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
HD. You should have that on you. Hd Blu-ray, no question, yeah, and maybe Oppenheimer, you know, 2001 that's.
01:06:50 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's such a good movie that it's worth probably having the best picture, especially Because you know Stanley Kubrick is noted for the richness of his imagery. Correct, that would be worth getting it looking as good as possible. Yep, have you tried the Vision Pro yet, scott? I?
01:07:11 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Have not have you. Yes, this guy had. We both have yeah and what do you think? Well, you know, it's not what I think.
01:07:22 - Leo Laporte (Host)
It's really the issue was a lot of people are saying the best thing to do in a vision pro is watch beautiful movie. Yeah, and I'm. It is, if those are 4k screens, right.
01:07:34 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Great, I each, I each, I try to 4k. Yeah, so have you did. Micah, did you watch?
01:07:39 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
a movie on. I watched several movies on it and they did look beautiful. They did look amazing. It was a really cool experience but Overall and I talked about this plenty in the review that I did it was an incredibly Uncomfortable device to wear and to have to keep wearing For two hours or three hours?
01:08:00
for three hours, even for for me, even an hour, and it was the most relieving thing to pack that thing up in a box and send it back to. That's not me trying to be funny, like genuinely, I'm so glad I don't have to keep putting it on.
01:08:13 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Wow.
01:08:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Not everybody has that no it.
01:08:17 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It well, it's not entirely unique. That's I was one of those, yeah, and the people who sent it back most of the time what they were, almost in every case that I heard of Anecdotally, it was always because of discomfort. Yeah, people, just whether it was like, for me it was physical, sort of my right on your temple my grain kind of discomfort. Other people it was. I strain it own different types of discomfort.
01:08:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm not against the idea of of, you know that notion of a beautiful, you know display. It's just, I don't want to wear a computer on my head. Yeah, and it inevitably, at least with the technology we have today, that means a heavy, uncomfortable experience. Now it's early days and I'm sure at some point yeah. I mean once they put it into actual, just regular glasses, maybe it we say that all the time, but there's no evidence that they can do that. Yet the technology does not exist. The limit does not does it Mike?
01:09:15 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
I'm you guys. I meant to ask does it present a screen in front of you? It looks like there's a yeah a screen and it's black around it or something well, it depends.
01:09:24 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You have some choices. So if you're watching a film, you can choose to have it go Completely dark in the area around the screen but yes, it is definitely a screen and you can make it. It's as if it appears very small, or you can make it huge. I had it basically my entire wall and then you twist the little digital crown that's on it to either darken or Brighten the area around you so you can still see, if you want to, out of the left and right. Or you can go completely immersive. And when you go immersive you can have it be completely black, or you can choose kind of a scene so you could be watching the movie, you could be watching 2001 while you're on the moon, for example.
01:10:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Just choose for it to go completely black around me, because that yeah you can't make that screen bigger, but you can't make it so big that it it can't go more than just what feels like it's right with your eyes, feels like you're in a movie.
01:10:18 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, exactly that's. That's, that's the best way I can describe it.
01:10:21 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Doesn't go beyond that correct.
01:10:23 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, it's not as if it goes completely from one side of the room to the other and you have to move your head. They want it to stay within. You're not needing to move your head to see kind of the whole thing.
01:10:32 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So in the middle of April, mm-hmm, that's six this coming.
01:10:36 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
April. Okay, yes.
01:10:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I will bring in something that I ordered going from the other direction. Okay, okay, because I agree with you, I don't want to wear a computer my head, but if they made them like spectacles, like you're wearing right now, scott, that would be really cool. Now I Remember one of the things you have to do with the vision pro and all the others is seal the light from the room and spectacles. I'm gonna do that. You also have to have enough horsepower to do all that, enough battery life to do it for more than five seconds, decent speakers. So it's difficult to reproduce that vision pro experience and anything less than that. That helmet.
01:11:12
But I ordered from a company called Brilliant Labs. They have a pair of spectacles that are heads up display so it project. You can see the world. You're walking around looking like a dork, but you can see the world and Projected onto the screen of the glasses, our images. You look a little like mr Peepers. You can show this, my screen right now. You can see there. This is the Brilliant Labs. I lost your video. You've lost my video. Oh, that's because I plugged the video with inadvertently, with my big glum thing, boots. The idea of this is interesting. Now, I don't believe this will be any better than the vision pro, but we'll give it a shot.
01:11:53 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, are you able to?
01:12:00 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
read something that's the idea of Google.
01:12:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Glass. You remember that? Yeah, google Glass is a screen above your right eyebrow, or a little. Oh, this is actually projecting onto the screen of your glasses, okay, and can you get prescription lenses?
01:12:16 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Yeah, I did.
01:12:17 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I ordered it with my prescription. It's odd because there's no I cannot focus on. If I put my hand up to my eye that close I can't focus on. Yeah, I don't know how. This is sort of the wrinkles of my but I mean they're showing.
01:12:29 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Imagine You're looking at a food and it shows you the nutrition information of the food, right see.
01:12:34 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
My hand has to be about here for me to be able to focus my eye on it, so that I hope that it can. I hope it works.
01:12:40 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Yeah, I'll be very interested to see if it works, this to me is what people are looking for more.
01:12:45 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, but admittedly, you're not gonna watch a movie in these. Right, that's not what these are for. No, no, I want to watch a movie. You're gonna need something somewhat like the vision pro. I mean, maybe they can make it smaller and thinner and lighter, but it's still gonna have to cover your face, so you don't have a lot of x ambient light and that's the other thing too, by the way.
01:13:02 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I watched both 3d and non 3d content in it just to try them out, and the the thing is, right now, the way that we do 3d is still with this idea that you have this screen in front of you that Things are popping out of, whereas what I would like to see 3d, it's as if you're kind of you've walked a little bit into the scene and it's happening around you. It all is still very I'm reaching toward you, but I'm never quite touching you, and yeah in something, as you know, supposed to be trends I Want to try to say it transformative.
01:13:37
As the vision pro, I guess I was expecting more, so the 3d content still felt like I was at a theater watching it that depends on on how they make the 3d content.
01:13:47 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
You know they're. They're making it with stuff poking out at you. That's stupid. But the more effective 3d production is when the 3d goes back behind.
01:14:00 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, so, and that depends on who made it and what they're thinking about intelligently the way of water, and I yeah, I just was expecting more out of it, because that's supposed to be his whole thing, right?
01:14:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
so yeah, what's interesting is Alfred Hitchcock did produce a three, one and only one 3d movie. I and I wish I'd gotten this information to you before you sent back the vision pro dial-em for murder and he shot it in Not red green 3d, but the way that we think of 3d with polarized glasses, modern 3d, but yeah this was way back when, anthony, you got to watch that.
01:14:36
Yeah, anthony still has this yet he didn't send his back to the. We were talking about it on MacBrick weekly because Jason Snell has watched it said it's, as I think, as as Alex Lindsey it says, quite it, quite interesting, so that that might be an example of a 3d movie, not shot for surprise and effect, but to actually give you three dimensions Should be interesting that could be interesting.
01:15:00 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
I'd love to hear about about that I mean that's in the hands of a very accomplished director.
01:15:05 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, oh yeah, scott Wilkinson, we are so pleased that your show is now available to everybody who listens to our network, home theater geeks. It started in the club as a club only venture, but we've decided to take those shows like iOS today and hands on Macintosh and Home theater geeks that work club only and make the audio available to all so you can subscribe. If you go to Twitter TV, you'll see that's one of our shows. You can subscribe to home theater geeks. I have to say if you want the video, you should join the club.
01:15:37 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
We want to show it because I I go to great pains to get some really great graphics.
01:15:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So there you go. It might be worth it, but at the same time you can at least listen to it, and I think we've seen a number of shows really leap in Downloads because of this.
01:15:51 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
So we're very happy about that's great, yeah.
01:15:53 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So listen to home theater geeks. Wherever you get your podcast, you can search for it. There is a feed. We use the old feed. I think we reuse the old fees. So if you, if you were subscribed to it back in the day, you, oh, all of a sudden you're getting new episodes. And if you're not in the club and you want to see video, twitter TV slash club to it so you can see the video of this guy and this guy and and enjoy all the fun of all of our shows in video. Thank you, scott Wilkinson. You bet happy to see you happy. Is his Passover coming up soon?
01:16:26 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Yeah, april, I think Scott plays the show far you know.
01:16:29 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So he's got to get your, get your ram's horn, Whatever you do oiled up.
01:16:36 - Scott Wilkinson (Guest)
Get it. Well, that comes in the fall. Oh, that's the fall.
01:16:38 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Okay, okay one of these days I'll get it, I think one should play the show far all year round person.
01:16:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yes, that's right. Thank you, Scott Well thanks so much. Thank you, guys, see you later. Bye. Yeah, I thought this brilliant lapsing was kind of interesting. We'll see.
01:16:52 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, I think it's super interesting. Again, it's, it's another take on it and it it's it's coming it from the other side. Yeah, and it's clear the info. It's specific to the tasks that it's going with, which it's going to help, right, and it's not Trying to be an everything device and this is something that benefits greatly from AI.
01:17:09 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I and I think that that's something that really was a missing piece in Google Glass it's, you know, meta kind of does it with their Ray bands, I don't know how well, but the idea that you're seeing something and then AI can interpret it and give you more information, I think that becomes very interesting All coming together right now yeah.
01:17:29
And it may be that Apple, coming at it from the high end, and companies like Brilliant Labs and Meta coming at it from the low end, they might someday get something that meets in the middle and be a real product. I just you know, like you, I'm one of those people that has a visceral reaction to putting that on my face. I just I feel like that was a showstopper for me. That's something I didn't want to do. When we come back, I speaking of shows, I got two things, two items to show Intel things we've talked about in previous episodes. I brought in some show Intel next on Ask the Tech guys.
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01:20:44 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Two to three hours of maybe not enough to watch Oppenheimer?
01:20:46 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, uh, certainly not enough to do a cross country flight, let alone fly to, uh, switzerland. So we were talking about external battery packs and I've been doing a little searching and reading and this is the most powerful. Uh, uh, it's using GAN technology, so even though it's pretty heavy, this has a huge amount of juice in it. This is a lithium ion battery from anchor, which I think is great because it has a charging base with Pogo pins, so you keep that plugged in, you can power your laptop and power your phone and some other type A device from it while it's charging, and it's got the same connections on the battery. So when you travel it's now it's a little heavy. I think you'll agree that's probably too heavy to carry around.
01:21:33 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It's a good size to take it from you.
01:21:34 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You can, but if you're on a plane, this would be a great choice. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, it's a little pricey. It's about 300 bucks, depending. You know, shop around anchor often has great deals, but I was really impressed by this Um does it and I'll show us the charge on the front at the top it's not display when you plug stuff in. I see that show, you get a lot of information. It's got a little display on it which I really like as well.
01:21:56 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You can see what it's charging at for each of those devices. Yes, yeah.
01:22:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And it has so much juice in it because of power delivery, can deliver juice on all the ports, that it really gives you a uh, you know, I think, a really good uh boost of power. They make up now like even giant batteries for home power Systems. But let me, let me show you this, this product, it's a, an anchor power bank, the anchor prime, and they make a couple of them. Uh, this is the 20,000 milliamp hour, 200 Watts. Oh, I'm sorry, I got the price really wrong. You know what? I think it went down 129.99.
01:22:34
Now, at that point this might well be worth having, because you've got 20,000 milliamp hours. You could power a laptop. It will do a hundred watt charging. So it's, it's what your laptop might expect. Yeah, total of 200 Watts. So you can have a hundred watt charging or a laptop and still plenty of power to fully charge an iPhone or a phone. That's nice. You could charge an iPhone three and a half times a galaxy S 23 3.4 charges a MacBook Air fully charge up. I wonder if you've got the bigger one, because this says 27,615.
01:23:03 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Oh, I might have gotten a newer, big. That's why I got that. That's why my ones are expensive.
01:23:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So you can get a 20,000 milliamp hours. Maybe I got the big one and this says Bluetooth. Yeah, I'm not sure what that's for, I guess, so you can see what's going on with your phone. That's kind of cool and it's power delivery, so it's fast charging. Yeah, I let me just see if I which one I got, cause I I do think I paid more. I think you got the 250 276.
01:23:28
Yeah, yeah, so that's it, I got, I got the even, the even, the bigger one, yeah, but you can get a smaller one, depends what you need. In fact, you probably 20,000 milliamp hours Be more than enough, and it'd be a little lighter too. You can also use that app to make it make sound, so that if you've lost it it'll beep or something.
01:23:46 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Oh, it does I find my power brick.
01:23:49 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, exactly why am I? My bag is so much lighter now. I don't know why. Well, it's fine.
01:23:55
My power brick, so that I wanted to show you that this would be a good choice for somebody who had a long trip ahead of them and wanted to keep your vision pro Going. So that's the answer that to question number one. You remember Susan came on she's the one who does a great job scanning people's photos plays and I said you know, I need one for my mom. And you and Susan both said, oh, we recommend this. But the next play, and this is their biggest screen, this is 15.9 inches. Let me turn it on. It has a lot of nice features. By the way, when you leave the room, it will automatically turn off, which it's done.
01:24:35 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's one of my favorite things.
01:24:36 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, so it doesn't waste power or waste the screen when you're not in the room. I've just I think I've turned it on. Let me wave at it. Hello, it will hold. Now there is. Lisa was disappointed to learn it only holds 2000 images, but I think that's more than enough. Yeah. If you're rotating through the images, even if you're doing five, a minute 2000 images is going to get you 400 minutes. That's a pretty long period of time to go without repeat.
01:25:05 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure with the app, when you set up playlists you can have it toggle between them so you technically can have different amounts.
01:25:15 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And it has to upload them. But it'll store it on the thing. Did we unplug it? Is it still plugged in Still?
01:25:21 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
plugged in.
01:25:26 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Did I kick it? Well, anyway, it does have sound. I have to say I recorded a video. This sounds terrible, yeah, and it's alarming because all of a sudden you hear a voice coming out of tinny little voice coming out of the back of your thing the speakers are not great Do not do audio videos.
01:25:44 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I don't do any videos on it at all, because I do think of it as a picture frame. That's how I like it to be. But yes, it is an option and if you're not sensitive to bad audio, then you know grandparents might be.
01:26:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I recorded it. Hi, grandma, this is your new picture frame and I went huh girl.
01:26:08
So, and it's not, of course, at the price. I got two for $350. One's going to my mother-in-law, one's going to my mom. At that price you're not going to get a super OLED screen Exactly, but it's also pretty good. And since it's mostly snapshots and slides being played, I don't know why I can't get it to turn on. I might have unplugged it. It does have Wi-Fi. You pair it to the Wi-Fi. So I think I'm going to bring this out because I'm going to have to set it up for my mom. But I did copy over about 1,500 pictures from our family, slides going way back. When have I broken my mom's? You know how to use this thing. Now, this stand is another negative. It's kind of flimsy and it falls. It falls right out. It looks normal, right, it's all in.
01:27:00 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I don't know what's going on here. Yeah, wake up. Wake up, wake up, yeah, here, oh it's on, it's on now, so does this snap in at some point. Yes, it does.
01:27:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, but I just never. Oh, yeah, there it goes. I never snapped it.
01:27:14 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Some of us read all of the instructions.
01:27:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, instructions, what are those? So what I do like about it is you have an app that you can control everything, including what pictures are on there. You can email pictures to it, which I think is great. So I'm going to give out that email address to all our family so that they can send mom new pictures. I have 1,215 slides in there, but I can also do some settings, which is really nice, and I won't show you all of the different settings because there's quite a few.
01:27:48 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
For how you rotate the slides and stuff like that, you can change the sort of animation that's for them.
01:27:51 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And that's per frame right.
01:27:52 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, exactly, and you can. Also, when you upload new photos to it, you have the ability as well to crop them right then, if you don't want it to do sort of that what Ken Burns effect, you can have it be set up that way.
01:28:08 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I have it right now playing all the photos, but, as you say, you can change that, play the latest 100 photos or whatever, and you can change it on the fly. So you don't have to. I can change it at home yes, with mom being 3,000 miles away and it will then change it. It has a huge number of transitions. This was kind of a fun one the snapshot transition, where piles them up as snapshots. You can say how long the images last. For mom. I'm going to probably set it to a minute or even five minutes, because she's going to want to see the picture and she looks at it and then it disappears. Right, it is a touchscreen, so you can favor it. I have turned it off, but you can have it have the clock and you can have it have captions, if your pictures have captions, which is really a nice feature, I have the brightness turned all the way down, so let's turn it all the way up so we can see it a little bit better. Now I think that's a pretty good image. Yeah, there you go.
01:29:04
That's doing the snapshot thing.
01:29:05 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So it's piling up and now you can see from here.
01:29:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
It can zoom to fit. It can do all sorts of things. It has different transitions in it. I think this is a wonderful little frame. I thank you for recommending it, thanks to Susan for recommending it and I know mom's just going to love this. These are the old family slides we digitized and I'm going to send. I have another box of photo albums to send to Susan.
01:29:25 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I just, yeah, I love this thing Again, specifically that email feature. I was able to give it to my siblings and then, every once in a while, mom can get a photo dump of great things going on.
01:29:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, I simplified this. The snapshots I thought didn't do justice to the images, so I just have it to fit to screen and then I have it to crossfade. They have a variety of. You can do random transitions.
01:29:50 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, I think I do crossfade Also there's weird different transitions on this thing.
01:29:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Let me make it a little faster. This is five second intervals, so you see all the different transitions. But what a great way for and then now she can favorite these, she can pause it, so she has some control over what happens.
01:30:10 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And if there's ever a photo you don't like, I'm pretty sure from there you can also delete it, yeah with the settings option in the middle, you can say OK, don't show me that one ever again.
01:30:17 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, that's nice. So she has some control over what's going on, display mode and so forth. I think this is going to be a lot of fun for an elder, a senior, who loves these pictures but doesn't want to haul down and photo all those all the time. I've got a variety of different transitions happening now, and some of them are dopey, so I just went to the crossfade.
01:30:38 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
What do you use? I have mindsets acrossfade and I have all of the on-screen stuff turned off, so connection clock is off. Captions are off.
01:30:47 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So then it's just like a photo frame, exactly, but it changes every once in a while and I think if you set it to a minute or five minutes, it might even be kind of a surprise. Every time it changes she might say oh, there's a new picture. How did that happen? Where did that come from? So I just thought we had talked about it. I thought it'd be nice to demonstrate that.
01:31:07
Yeah, just so people can see what it looks like. I was pretty pleased at the quality of the images. That's actually one of mom's paintings. It looks a little blurry because it's not a photo. I put some of her paintings in there as well so she could see those.
01:31:21
She gets really excited when she sees that. So thank you, susan, thank you, micah, for the recommendation. That is the Nix Play frame. They have a variety of sizes and price points so you can choose, and I don't know if this is still on, but when I bought it it was two for one, and so I just said well, I'll take two, I'll figure out where the other one goes. And it turns out. Lisa said I'm sending that to my mom. I love that, that's good.
01:31:44 - John Ashley (Other)
Another call. Let's do it All right. I see somebody going on a hike right now. So, dan, if you're hearing this, I'm going to pick up on you right now.
01:31:53 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So take a moment, dan likes to take his cat for a walk. As I remember, he is out there. He's actually running. It looks like he's jogging. Can you hear us, Dan? Come on over, Come on down. I think he's not listening.
01:32:10 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Oh, something is happening now. We see fingers.
01:32:12 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Fingers he's waving. There's gestures happening. Do I need to press the button? Ok, we're moving Dan into the Stargate. There we go. Dan is moving. Hey, now.
01:32:22 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Ah Dan, hey now. Hey now, hey now.
01:32:25 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Where are you running, Dan? Well, I started in one natural area, went through the neighborhood, went through a second natural area and now I'm walking on the junior high school track. So nice Caught me on my Sunday stroll.
01:32:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I love that, though. See you're. You're multitasking. Why wait on hold sitting around when you could take a nice walk? Hey, get those steps in right. Exactly, very much so. Yeah, looks like it's been raining. Where are you calling from, dan?
01:32:56 - Caller 1 (Caller)
So I'm in Portland, oregon. We have a mix of rain and snow. We don't often see snow, while in the March Yikes we had a huge winter storm beginning in February that knocked power out and really hit the region hard. I remember that. So we're still kind of healing from that. So everybody's freaking out Leo, mike, they're freaking out here.
01:33:18 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Weather. You just never can get settled into one pattern.
01:33:25 - Caller 1 (Caller)
So here's my Portland joke it's got the best summers of anywhere I've ever lived the other 11 months of the year. That's a good advice.
01:33:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I may not move to Portland after all. So what can we do for you, Dan?
01:33:40 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, I'm afraid I bought a Mac for one reason a little Mac mini to supplement my photography workflow, nice. And I wanted to do one thing I wanted to be able to filter my photos based upon the album I put them in or if I have performed any edits to my photos all on the iPhone. All I want to do is be able to go into Lightroom Classic and filter my iPhone photos, because you kind of overshoot a little when you're out with your iPhone. So I've got this massive amount of photos and typically I'll do some edits on one and I'll throw it into my favorites and it's an easy way to find it. But then I'm trying to find a way. I already have a system where I back up all of my photos to my Synology, then my Synology gets backed up to Backblaze. I've got a pretty robust workflow setup, but the one piece that's missing is I cannot find a way to sort or filter based upon what album or if edits have been performed on an iPhone photo.
01:34:58 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So you first want to filter it and say this has come from an iPhone, and then from there you want to filter it further by if it has had photos or if it has edits done to it. Slash which specific album it's from.
01:35:15 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Right. Well, I already know that they come from the iPhone because that goes into its own folder on Synology. So I can point Lightroom Classic to that and I've got it pointed to all of my iPhone photos that I've taken or all my mobile photo stuff. So that's kind of nailed it in place. But when I go and look at that within Lightroom Classic I just see every single photo. And when I go into the XF data and try to filter on any field, even attribute, any attribute, that doesn't seem to be one problem.
01:35:50 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You're only copying the images. You're not copying the catalog Because, remember, lightroom depends very much on the catalog file.
01:35:57 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, no, I'm taking every single photo that I shoot on the iPhone. I use a.
01:36:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You're copying it to your Synology, but you're just right. But at that point detaching it from the Lightroom catalog, you have to tell Lightroom that your images may be living elsewhere, so that the catalog and the images match. Because the catalog is really important to Lightroom in terms of, for instance, that's where the edits are kept, that's where the XF may or may not be kept. It can't all. It's not. There are many attributes, some of which are in the XF or the IPTC data, but some of it is stored in the catalog. So Lightroom has a way. It's been a long time since I've used this, so you'll forgive me if I'm not saying it properly, but Lightroom has a way of saying my photos are not just stored here, they're stored elsewhere, in this case your Synology. But you want to make sure Lightroom knows that, so that it knows that this image is also in the catalog, which is stored locally. Does that all make sense?
01:37:01 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Yeah, I think I've got that part nailed down.
01:37:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
But you still don't see the attributes you want in the search file folder.
01:37:09 - Caller 1 (Caller)
I can see all the attributes for the iPhone photos. It tells me the focal length, the time, but you should also see attributes that are like keywords.
01:37:17 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Let's say a keyword. You put a keyword in here that that is something stored in the catalog. You should also be able to see that with the stuff stored in the Synology, if it's set up properly. Do your keyword searches work? I? Don't keyword anything on my iPhone. Well, try it, see if your keyword searches work, because if they don't, then your catalog is not seeing the photos on the Synology.
01:37:40 - Caller 1 (Caller)
I mean, where would you even keyword something on an iPhone?
01:37:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, I see you haven't imported them into Lightroom yet.
01:37:48 - Caller 1 (Caller)
No, I don't use Lightroom mobile at all. I'm old school.
01:37:51 - Leo Laporte (Host)
They don't like you. I'm confused, so you have not yet put those iPhone photos into Lightroom Classic on your desktop.
01:38:00 - Caller 1 (Caller)
I have a sync routine that automatically kind of sucks them off my iPhone over the air and then puts them into the Synology. I then go to my desktop and I say synchronize my catalog. And it goes and it looks at all my directories that I have on my Synology and it'll synchronize my camera roll folders and my Sony a7 for raw pictures and my DJI folders. I can just say synchronize this catalog.
01:38:32 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So you're saying synchronize it in Lightroom, correct, so in effect, importing those into Lightroom.
01:38:40 - Caller 1 (Caller)
So I thought, if I went on to the Mac where I'm in the photos, do you?
01:38:45 - Leo Laporte (Host)
see them in the Lightroom thumbnails after that synchronization.
01:38:49 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Absolutely, I have full control.
01:38:50 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I can go in. So they are now imported. That's good. You're doing exactly what I suggested, which is let Lightroom know. There's multiple places and one of them is the Synology, so it is now. You've synced it from the phone at the Synology. Lightroom has now imported them into Lightroom. It's in the Lightroom and you should be able to, using Lightroom Search, search on almost any attribute. You don't use keywords. It won't work with keywords, obviously that's. One solution to your problem is to use key wording to further the search. Right now it'll search for anything that's stored in the metadata of the photo right, Including GPS and all that. Yeah.
01:39:27 - Caller 1 (Caller)
But what I can't seem to do is in terms of my workflow. When I shoot a phone, or shoot a photo on the phone when I'm out in the field, I will do some edits on that photo, Get it looking perfect.
01:39:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yes, what are you editing the photo in what is perfect On the phone?
01:39:40 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Just on the iPhone using the native iPhone tools OK.
01:39:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
None of those edits will propagate into Lightroom, though.
01:39:48 - Caller 1 (Caller)
They do, though, and that's what is. I wasn't even going to go there, leo. Ok, I'll trust you that they are propagating? Ok, You're not and you said you're not using.
01:39:58 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Lightroom Mobile. By the way, lightroom Mobile is not classic. Lightroom Mobile is cloud, so there are different kinds of lightrooms.
01:40:08 - Caller 3 (Caller)
No, I don't use Lightroom at all, but you don't use cloud. You don't use it in CC, right?
01:40:12 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No, none of that, and you're not using Lightroom Mobile, which is good, because that would really not work. So you're using Apple's Photos app to do any edits. Then cut, oh, yes on the iPhone, yes on the iPhone, and then you copy the photo, edited photo onto the Synology and synchronizing with Lightroom.
01:40:32 - Caller 1 (Caller)
That happens automatically using the OneDrive app on the iPhone. It just automatically syncs every single photo and I do see the photos that I've edited on the iPhone. I'll see those edits over the holidays. You see the edits.
01:40:43 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So Apple must be somehow bundling the edit in a way that Lightroom is seeing. So that's good, you can you see the original as well as the edited version?
01:40:52 - Caller 1 (Caller)
No, you'll see a version of it, and what I don't know is between the formats on the iPhone, you have the ATIC, the Apple J-Payers, you have all those different versions, as well as an MOV for the live photos, but what I don't see is just a single XF attribute that says hey, dan, you put this in your favorites album. I want to filter it up. You want to?
01:41:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
favorite it on the iPhone and then have Lightroom know that it's been favorited Right. Got it. Ok that's so that's not going to work.
01:41:25 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, that's not something you can do.
01:41:28 - Caller 1 (Caller)
But that's why I bought the Mac.
01:41:30 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, no, it's very clever. You're almost there, I like you set up.
01:41:34
So you've got this nice workflow. That's automatic. Take a picture automatically. Eventually you'll get to the Synology thanks to OneDrive, and then automatically you'll sync it into Lightroom so you have it available. I don't know if you're going to get the original. My guess is that it's synchronizing the edited. I can't remember what the Iphoto, what Photos, does, but I believe there is an original. It keeps the original, but I'm guessing that you're not importing the original to the Synology, you're importing the edit.
01:42:05 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, it would depend on the OneDrive settings.
01:42:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'd have to experiment with that, but since you're getting the edit, you're getting that. What you want is I want to put a little heart on it on the iPhone, and then no. I've parted with that, yeah, that will put it in the other album as well.
01:42:21 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, so you wish what you hope, your desire. What you want is basically for the Photos app on your phone to add to the XF data.
01:42:34 - Leo Laporte (Host)
This is in your favorites album. This is in this album. This is the experiment. The experiment now would be maybe I don't think favoriting is going to make it through that cycle, but if you added a keyword or a caption, that might, so when we have to do that on the Photos app.
01:42:52
Well, that's the. Yeah, you can do. I don't think on the. What can you do in the Photos app on the iPhone? I don't think I have Photos app on the iPhone. Can you give it any keyword? I don't know how much of what you do on the iPhone is going to get brought all the way you can add a caption. So maybe if you put a thumbs up in the caption and then we're able to search the caption on Lightroom we got to find something that survives that cycle, Okay.
01:43:16 - Caller 1 (Caller)
So it goes so far as to say this is from the iPhone 15 Pro Max. Yeah, yeah, that's all in the XF. That's why that's in the XF of the photo.
01:43:24 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So it's preserving the XF, and that's why I'm wondering if there's something you can do in Photos on the iPhone that will get preserved along your favorites. I think does not, because that's really that's information that goes into your iPhone Photos.
01:43:40 - Caller 1 (Caller)
You know, even a flag that says this photo has been edited, like that would be good enough, like I don't even need to see the edits or see where it is, because you have basically two different systems.
01:43:52 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You have two different systems and you have to figure out which information from the iPhone is going to get. It's make its way into Lightroom. I you know the XF does. There is another field called IPTC. If you could edit that, that would make it there is. Perhaps if you set a caption on that, it's just worth an experiment. Say, edited, edited in the caption, see if that's going to make it. You need something that's going to be going to survive that import cycle.
01:44:22 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And I'm going to give you another suggestion here. I think you should type up this question that you have, or you can actually just say hey, I asked you this question and I'm going to ask the tech guys Micah, send that to iOS today at twittv, because I wouldn't be surprised if my dear fellow co-host, rosemary Orchard, has a suggestion for how to do this shortcut.
01:44:43
Yeah, because I wouldn't be surprised if she has a way that you can tell it. This is the album and I want you to add XF data to this album. Can you edit XF data in the shortcut?
01:44:51 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's what I'm looking at, yeah to see if it's possible to do, wouldn't that be interesting.
01:44:56 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Say that again. Edit the XF where.
01:44:58 - Leo Laporte (Host)
On the iPhone, Because we know the XF the extended information fields from the iPhone photo, get imported into Lightroom. They make it through that import cycle. We're just looking for something besides the heart that's going to survive. I don't think the heart does. I'm looking on my iPhone to see it's fine, even if it's another album.
01:45:19 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, you could create an album that the albums.
01:45:22 - Leo Laporte (Host)
The albums propagate. I don't think so.
01:45:27 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
No, see, what we would basically do is we would create a solution for you where you would use the keywords field in the X of data and that keywords field could be the name of the album, and then in Lightroom, because that information gets brought over now you're able to create a filter that says if it has this keyword for this album, please show me those photos. So what we, what I need to do we don't have time to do it live is I would talk to my co-host, rosemary, who's very good at creating shortcuts. There may be a way to create a shortcut on your iPhone that just looks at a specific photo album, edits the X of data and adds that the name of that photo album to the keywords field in the X of data and maybe it looks at the heart Exactly and it says favorite, because favorites is also technically an album.
01:46:13
So when you find a good point so you just
01:46:17 - Caller 1 (Caller)
add that as well. Yeah.
01:46:19 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So that's probably going to be a solution IOS today at twittv. Basically, all you need to say is Mike, we talked about this on Ask the Tech guys and then just put in X if shortcut. If you mentioned that, then I'll know that that's what this is.
01:46:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So the key is, as you understand conceptually you've got two different systems.
01:46:39
You've got a Lightroom system and you've got an iPhone system and you're trying to say what information in this fairly complicated workflow you've got. What information will be preserved all the way to Lightroom? We know that the extended information in the photo does get preserved, so it makes sense if you could store it as a comment in the X if, for instance, that it would make its way to Lightroom and at that point you could search for it in Lightroom. Yeah, I don't think this is a workflow that.
01:47:10
What Igor Ackerman in our discord says. I did do this using a shell script and a program called X. If for EX I F E R that modifies the X. If he added an exit field to his photos with the album name, that's not going to help you because he did that on a Mac. We want to figure out and I think we can if we could do that with shortcuts, which means you could have a shortcut on the iPhone. You'd press the shortcut and would say everything that's in the favorites folder, Add a tag to the exit that says favorites or whatever you want, and that would get propagated all the way around.
01:47:44 - Caller 1 (Caller)
My hope is to have some sort of script That'll do this automatically. So there's one single sort of landing place for things that I've edited so that then my website, dan startcom you can go there and go to Dan start and automate the whole process.
01:48:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I love it. As a good king, there's always a decision.
01:48:08
I face this decision all the time about. Okay, how much work is this to continue doing this manually, versus spending the energy which you're spending right now, dan, to figure out a way to do it automatically? If you do it enough manually, at some point it crosses over and, like I'm spending enough time doing this manually, I should see if I could write a script to do it. Almost everything is scriptable. I mean, I have a deep faith. The iPhone is a little funny Once you get onto a computer, the sky's the limit, exactly. But the iPhone has, from Apple's point of view, for security reasons, lots of limitations on what you can do.
01:48:46 - Caller 1 (Caller)
The only way that I found is to go through on the Mac, check each little box separately.
01:48:51 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, that's not Do a manual selection. You're doing it manually, right, and you want to speed it up, you're saving, you're downloading all those up on the cloud.
01:48:58
Here's what I envision, with the help of Rosemary Orchard and Micah Sargent that you'll have a script. By the way, if you really want to automate it, you can attach the script to the action button on your iPhone 15, that when you press it, it runs. That script. It takes all of the photos that are in the Apple Photos Favorite folder, and some. It doesn't have to, by the way, be the word favorites. It actually just adds a check mark, for instance, to the XF file, the XF information of that photo, so that when you do the whole import and you search in Lightroom for that check mark, lo and behold, all your favorites are right there.
01:49:38 - Caller 1 (Caller)
That's. All I need is a period, a comma, a hyphen, yeah, just something that you can search for. Anything.
01:49:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, my vision is that you will have either a button on your screen or you could even make an action button. That is, a single script that automates that process. I bet you could do it. The real, the only real question there's always the question you have to ask with Apple Shortcuts is does it have a command to modify the XF Exactly? Because I'm sure it has a command to find the favorites, but does it have a command that it could then find? Modify the XF.
01:50:08 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, I can't be the only one in this space where the iPhone is rapidly approaching the quality of the best full frame. I don't know if you saw the pre-show.
01:50:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I was showing the pictures. Lisa and I went and saw Madonna at the Chase Center in San Francisco on Wednesday and I think I got some of the best pictures. I was trying to decide should I bring a good camera? They won't let you bring a professional camera into the Chase Center and so I thought maybe if I have a point and shoot, that's pretty good, I could bring that. And then I thought you know what? Let's just see what I could do with the iPhone. And I have to say, blown away, the iPhone is perhaps the best concert photo album in the world the low light performance on that channel.
01:50:53
Yeah, because the low light performance is incredible and the 5X zoom means you can be right there on the stage and concert lighting is notoriously difficult because it's both simultaneously very bright and very dark. It's not as bright as it feels like in the concert.
01:51:10 - Caller 1 (Caller)
You need like 38 stops. You need like 38 stops.
01:51:13 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You're an photographer, so I was blown away by the pictures that we were able to get, and these are unedited. I haven't edited these. Lisa posted them on her Instagram and on her Facebook, but these are amazing photos from the concert floor and the iPhone handled the light beautifully. Couldn't have done better. This is unedited, so, yeah, it's an amazing camera. This is the iPhone 15 Pro Max, but it's an amazing camera. Now, don't pixel peep it, because as you zoom in, you'll see very quickly that it starts to fall apart.
01:51:51 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, don't pixel peep my negatives from 1980s. Well, that's true also right.
01:51:54 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I mean yeah.
01:51:56 - Caller 1 (Caller)
But if at a normal size a normal viewing size.
01:51:58 - Leo Laporte (Host)
it looks good. If it'll look good on that 15 inch screen back there, then you're fine, and I think that all of these I'm looking on my laptop on a pretty high resolution screen hold up quite well. Look at this. I mean, this is the kind of thing. The lighting in this is impossible, impossible.
01:52:17 - Caller 1 (Caller)
That is fantastic, stunning.
01:52:21 - Leo Laporte (Host)
And it's a fairly easy.
01:52:23 - Caller 1 (Caller)
There's a lot of movement there.
01:52:25 - Leo Laporte (Host)
This would be very hard to do. Even if I brought my good cameras, this would be almost impossible.
01:52:29 - Caller 1 (Caller)
You wouldn't get it.
01:52:29 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I wouldn't get it as good as you are. So it's pretty amazing what you can do. And this isn't even raw. I didn't shoot raw, I just shot the standard. So I did turn off and I recommend this live photo when you're in a low light situation. Live photo design. Yeah yeah, I turned that off, but otherwise I'm just.
01:52:49 - Caller 1 (Caller)
I might call in for help and the experts do not have a quick answer. Yeah, you told me that You've got a challenging thing you're trying to do there.
01:52:58 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You're trying to do something and I admire this. You're really trying to automate a workflow, and how are you going to get it to your website?
01:53:07 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, there is a great tool in um Lightroom Classic, where, oh, it builds a website folder.
01:53:14 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, yeah.
01:53:16 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Well, I can just say an upload to my smug mug too, where, um yeah, I have this. Different folders in Lightroom. Yeah, I had the smug plug, plug in Jeffrey.
01:53:25 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That was written by Jeffrey Friedl, who wrote the book on a regular expression parsing. He's right, very talented person. Here's another one where the light was very, very challenging because it's so dark in the audience. And uh, and the bright light from the spotlight and lighting her, and even the beams of light, the volume of light is really quite amazing what you can do. Yeah, I mean, I was blown away.
01:53:50 - Caller 1 (Caller)
You went to what 7,000 other people have that exact same picture, exactly.
01:53:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
It always gets me to the concert.
01:53:56
People are shooting the concert. Madonna had 20 cameras there. She had a camera on an automatic conveyor belt was following her around. I mean you don't need to make video of this. The motion picture will be out soon. Dan, enjoy the rest of your walk.
01:54:11
Thank you, dan, is uh, is uh, obviously a serious photographer. Joe, who is our uh street photographer, joe in the uh discord also says he shoots log with the iPhone. He shoots in his video. He shoots log footage. Wow, that's even more sophisticated. It's really pretty amazing. He's also asking the question that all of them, all of us light room users, have been asking for years when are they going to kill light room? Classic Adobe says they never are. They just now have two products. I stopped using light room cause I Adobe makes me nuts and I now use DXO mark and capture one, and I like them very much, but that's not as easy. As good as light room. Lightroom was the best we were. We were very lucky. Ladies and gentlemen, let's pause for a moment and then Johnny jet, travel guru, we'll join us. You're watching. Ask the tech guys. Micah Sargent in the left, I'm in the right and in the middle, johnny jet, our traveling man. Hello, oh, your sound is awful. Holy cow, you're over modulated. Just turn yourself down a little bit there.
01:55:30 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I got a new computer. Oh, congrats, that's very nice, this was perfect.
01:55:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
This was an assessor. The after the travail yes, oh, have you solved all of that?
01:55:43 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
For the most part, I think, knock on what.
01:55:45 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Johnny got scammed identity fraud, the whole nine yards nightmare. The worst thing I've ever heard my life.
01:55:54 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I mean, I mean sincerely the worst type of fraud, scam thing. Yeah, certainly that I've heard personally, so I'm glad you're doing okay. Sounds like you've you know you've started to figure it out.
01:56:07 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah, I think so. So, and by the way, after I got the phone with you guys, you know I did some more digging and I looked at my phone, not my phone, my email, where people logged in and someone logged in from New York. So I obviously turned off, I logged out of all my devices, I changed my password, so as we have mentioned.
01:56:30 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I don't know what somebody gets your email. All bets are off, because if you're using that email for recovery password recovery they suddenly have access to everything.
01:56:39 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And what they'll do to make sure that you're not hip to it is they will immediately not just delete the email where they're resetting passwords or getting passwords, they'll also delete it from the deleted file so that you don't even know that they've been going through and reset.
01:56:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Totally bad people.
01:56:57 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah, I don't know if I told you this part, but they sent an email to my accountant, Whoa from me. That's how we figured it out.
01:57:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'd like to transfer all my funds to a small corporation in the Canary Islands, signed Jonathan Jet.
01:57:10 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Jonathan Jet, please send $5,000. Wow To this person and my accountant sent it. No, the only reason who caught it? The only person caught it was Intuit, who does the, I guess does the accounting for them. And they called me up and said is this, this seems like fraud, is it? I go, of course it's fraud, hallelujah, I've never done that in my life. And then I said there's no way my accountant would have done it. They're like, just contact your accountant, it's thank goodness Intuit had caught that.
01:57:35 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
And then you and your accountant came up with a special phrase that you'll use from now on yeah, that I won't be doing it ever.
01:57:42 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah, don't do it.
01:57:43 - Caller 1 (Caller)
Don't ever do it.
01:57:46 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Anyway, he's like it's rampant right now, so yeah, I look out. Your small business owner like me. You really, I mean the technology, and I guess it's AI that's really messing things up in terms of all these scams that are coming out.
01:58:00 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, after I talked to you, johnny, this last time, I was looking through the news and 404 media had done an entire investigation of a site that was using a service, I should say that was using AI to generate fake IDs, exactly how you had described where.
01:58:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, I remember that yeah.
01:58:21 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So I talked to Joseph Cox of 404 media later in that week about that very thing and basically this guy was getting people to just pay a little bit of money and then they would generate things that looked like passports, that looked like IDs, and it was giving them access to different online accounts. So, yeah, it's very rampant and, unfortunately, generative AI is making it even more easy and quick for these fraudsters.
01:58:48 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Good news is, after Joseph Cox exposed them on 404 mediaco, they shut down. They did shut down. The problem, bad news, is they just went to a different place.
01:58:57 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, they shut down after insisting that their service had never been used for negative purposes.
01:59:03 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Okay, buddy it was called only fake.
01:59:06 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Speaking of internet security, Best Buy sold me on Trend Micro Internet Security. Do you recommend them? I don't have you heard of them Generally.
01:59:15 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, we have.
01:59:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Trend is very good. They're established in the business. Generally we don't recommend internet security tools because they mostly get in your way. But you know, in your case maybe it's a good idea to have it.
01:59:29 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I haven't installed it on my new computer because I was waiting to hear from you guys.
01:59:34 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You're using a Windows machine yet. Yeah, go ahead and install it, john you know.
01:59:38 - Leo Laporte (Host)
There is a subscription fee, as you know, and you'll have to pay every year. But Trend's good. Trend Micro is one of the best. Whether it will protect you is another matter. It'll certainly help.
01:59:49 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, I can help with your email for scams.
01:59:51 - Leo Laporte (Host)
The big risk with this is sometimes people go, oh, I'm protected, and then do whatever they want. Yeah, you still have to use your noggin, be vigilant, and be vigilant and stay out of trouble, even if you're running this. But yeah, it's not too bad.
02:00:03 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Occasionally. How about Wi-Fi on the plane? Do you use a VPN?
02:00:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No, no, Just you don't. You don't worry about that. Well, maybe I'm a fool. I I never got hacked.
02:00:13 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I think that's how I got hacked one of the time. Maybe it is.
02:00:16 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I don't. I yeah, I'm very careful. I use a VPN when.
02:00:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm. If I were John Jett, I would probably use a VPN on the airplane. Yeah, yeah.
02:00:25 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I just I mean, I do often, but not always.
02:00:27 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Sometimes I forget. To me it's like wearing a mask, I just think that it's a good idea. Maybe in that moment it is helpful, maybe it's not, but I do it. Yeah, I guess the question is, why not?
02:00:43 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Right, yeah, that's a good point. Why not? Anywhere you're on a public Wi-Fi network, there is the risks. There's some less likely than an airplane, because the guy's got to be on the airplane with you but he's sitting on the airplane, he's running. There is an inexpensive device you could buy called the Wi-Fi pineapple yeah.
02:01:00
And the pineapple will can, if used properly, see everybody else on the plane. And the weirdest thing it can do is it can see all of the Wi-Fi access points you've joined on, that you're part of, on your device. Suck that up and then impersonate one of them and your device will say well, forget this, delta Airlines Wi-Fi, I'm home, I'm home baby. And then and join his Wi-Fi pineapple and now all your traffic's going through him. Now, how useful is that? Really is a question because you know your email's encrypted so he can't really see your email password. In the old days you might have sent that in the clear, but you no longer. When you go on Facebook or Gmail or any reasonable service, no, your stuff is no longer set in the clear, so he's not seeing the plain text, he's seeing gobbledygook fly through. Nevertheless, you know it's belt and suspenders. It doesn't hurt.
02:01:58 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Okay, and then you know, your photos of Madonna were amazing and I, you know, I used to travel with a big Nikon and I stopped because unless I'm going on a safari, I'm not bringing a huge camera anymore. I mean, those shots were amazing. It's unbelievable, yeah. So I have one quick question about that. You know I used to have an old download of Picasso. Should I download that? I know they're done, but they're gone.
02:02:22 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No, no, no, don't use Picasso anymore Because it's long gone. So what do you recommend?
02:02:25 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Because I love doing those batch edits and you know, you know taking my photos down in size and in a whole bunch when I'm trying to post them to the internet. You're on.
02:02:35 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Windows now right.
02:02:36 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah.
02:02:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I don't know what to use on Windows. I use Acorn on the Mac for that, but on the Windows side I don't think Microsoft Paint. I'll let the chat room come up with an answer.
02:02:48 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
So don't download. A bootleg version of Picasso has been dead for a decade, I know, but someone created one that I was using.
02:02:54 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
No, johnny. Come on, johnny, vigilance, knock it off Johnny.
02:03:01 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Maybe that's how I got hacked. Yes, I had that. I had that. I had that for like 10 years.
02:03:07 - Leo Laporte (Host)
If you're downloading somebody's old version of Picasso. A if it's really an old version of Picasso, it isn't going to run. But B it might not be Picasso at all. It might be Picasso plus a little payload, picasso plus suit. Picasso is my suit.
02:03:21 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I'm glad we're having this conversation.
02:03:22 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, johnny knock off this bad behavior. Man, you ought to learn. I've been a bad boy, I've been a very bad boy. One of the reasons people use Lightroom is for that. But I don't recommend it anymore because, uh well, yeah, if it's not cheap, you have to subscribe. These days, Uh, and it ends up being a couple hundred bucks a year.
02:03:42 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I mean, all I used to Picasso for was to, you know, grab up 30 photos that I'm going to put in my post.
02:03:48 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I know, copy them.
02:03:50 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Hit email and it would email me. You know how? About my little 1200 pixels of them?
02:03:54 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I. This is free for the first computer. If you want to put it on your phone and other stuff too, m Y L I O. Uh, it'll do a lot of the states. It's actually I think it was inspired by Picasso does much of the same Y L Y O.
02:04:09
M Y L I O Milo, former sponsor. I think they're going to come back cause we love them. After this they better. Yeah, m Y L I Ocom, first one's free, so you can use it fully. It has AI. It'll do all the recognition. You start putting faces in there, uh, you know, say here's my wife, here's my kids. It will then recognize all the other photos as well. Without sending it to the cloud, it will do backup. Um, I'm not sure it'll have the exact Picasso features you're looking for. You can categorize. It has auto categorization, which is really nice. Uh, so you don't have to. You know, say, I want all the pic. I have to put mountain in all the captions. It'll automatically find all the pictures of mountains. So it's much like Google photos is these days. And whether it will do the mass email, I don't know, but uh, okay.
02:04:57
It's worth looking at that, yeah, but but no, no, no one download. Download bootleg software no good Ever Never ever.
02:05:07 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Okay, my, but my buddy posted a picture of his boarding pass. He had a cool air France boarding pass where it put both flights on the same pass. So you know, instead of two tickets, I just gave him one.
02:05:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I've never heard of that before. That's cool.
02:05:22 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I mean it was cool, but he didn't. He didn't blur out his confirmation number or his name. Uh-oh I go. What are you crazy? I logged into his reservation. I could see everywhere he was going. I could have deleted it. Yeah, I could have changed the seat. I almost upgraded him. If I had enough money, I would have upgraded.
02:05:39 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No, no, no. Never take pictures of tickets of any kind and post them until the flight is over. Then do whatever you want.
02:05:46 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Even then do it, because they still have your they can get your freaking flyer number. Yeah, that's right, you don't want to mess with your.
02:05:52 - Leo Laporte (Host)
uh, don't leave your like, do you? I guess you probably don't leave your ticket stub in the seat front. Never take it with you, tear it up.
02:05:59 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I used to see like celebrity, I would grab a celebrity sometime. They I used to do LA New York every other week and they've just some. Some of them would just leave it on their seat.
02:06:06 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, I'm, like you guys, crazy. That's a good little souvenir though. Johnny Damp Frequent flyer number four, three, nine, nine, nine, one, one, one.
02:06:15 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I keep all my my um yeah, boarding passes.
02:06:18 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I think that's probably smart. Shred them.
02:06:20 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
And first of all, you want to keep them because in case you don't get credit for your flight, for your freaking flyer miles, that's a good point, yeah, you can then, you know, contact the airline and say this is my ticket number and this is the date. There's proof, and you always want to make sure, but I also just keep it, just for a keepsake. I mean, I'm kind of a pack pack rat, but I have every single, almost every single flight I've ever done. Oh, this is clever.
02:06:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
There's a uh uh, I love this. Joe uh in our discord just published, posted this uh Twitter account called debit card uh, please quit posting pictures of your debit card. He re. He retweets pictures People post of their credit cards.
02:06:59 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Why would they post them? Because they are like oh look, I got a new car. They don't know any better, johnny. No, why would you download?
02:07:05 - Leo Laporte (Host)
pirated software. Johnny Listen, they don't know any better. Don't do that, even if you're really proud of your credit card and how it looks.
02:07:12 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, sometimes people you know they put their personalized photos on there.
02:07:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I shouldn't, I shouldn't say anything because I have, on the shows, entered my credit card number on camera, uh to order something and uh had to cancel the credit card before the show ended. That happened once or twice, Wow, I mean. So I shouldn't say it.
02:07:34 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
And, by the way, I do usually still use a paper boarding. Pass along with my why? Just because, just because there's been times where my phone either locked up or my battery died, or it just wouldn't read with a reader.
02:07:47 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I really hate standing in line behind somebody who just can't get their watch. Yeah, show the boarding pass underneath.
02:07:54 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
So I have it as a backup and also just to have as a keepsake. So I know, you know what's flight, I took everything frame in the wall.
02:08:01 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I've been everywhere.
02:08:02 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
No, I have a whole. I'm telling you I have a bin of them all. That's great. I actually wish I laminated some of them because I have like it's actually the first flight LA Hong Kong.
02:08:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So the Madonna concert was a ticket master. They don't give you paper tickets anymore. You can if you I don't know if you don't have a smartphone, I guess because they want they want you to have the ticket on the smartphone, the watch, and they scan it as you go in, but you have to go to the box office and have them print. Yeah, I see if to wait a paper ticket for you If you don't have a smartphone.
02:08:31 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Okay, if you don't have a smartphone. Yeah, it's like a will call.
02:08:34 - Leo Laporte (Host)
It's crazy, yeah, yeah.
02:08:37 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Nowadays nobody.
02:08:38 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm going to see the Wild Crats this weekend with how, which, which of your beautiful? Children they are. You're stuck with them.
02:08:44 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Is it like the Wiggles, but American?
02:08:46 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
No, no, they're, they're all animal based. Oh, they're just going to. They're going to tell stories I'm sure my kids are obsessed with somebody's asking if you have a beverage cart behind you.
02:08:56 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You do.
02:08:58 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I got this called my sky cart.
02:09:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
He took it off an airplane. He said you don't need this, do you?
02:09:04 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
And he goes off the airplane with the beverage no actually a guy like five years ago sent it to me.
02:09:12 - Leo Laporte (Host)
It's from, I think, Florida or actually have a beverage, but you can have any.
02:09:15 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
They have all different airlines. You could have one that says pan am on it. Nice, I think it's my sky cartcom.
02:09:20 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I believe. So we have about five more minutes. What else is going on in the world?
02:09:26 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
My last thing talking about this paper ticket just reminded me. I just posted a video. It was one of my tips. You know, there's a guy who who was showing what you can do with your paper ticket. You can put it in your seat back in front of you in case your flight does not have in-flight entertainment, which a lot of planes don't. Now, you know, make sure you download all your movies and entertainment. You can take your paper ticket, put it in the seat, close the tray and then take your phone cover off, slide it in and you can just have it holding there with if you're stuck. That way you don't have to sit there and hold your phone the whole time.
02:10:01 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So you turn your paper ticket into a phone holder? Is this on the website?
02:10:06 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah, actually I made a. I made a post out of it. Paper ticket. People do it with barf bags too.
02:10:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I've seen people do it with barf bags, so it's basically the same thing. Yeah, don't do it with a used one. Obviously we have fresh, unused bought bag.
02:10:21 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Anyway, mss bag. And then there was another thing that's pretty cool that I saw this week. Have you seen these smart trolleys?
02:10:28 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No so. I've seen people riding around their suitcases at an airport. Is that what you're talking about?
02:10:35 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah, I've done that before I actually tried the promo like a year up, like 10 years ago, when they came out. They're fun, but I don't think airports really allow them now.
02:10:44 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh, that's sad.
02:10:47 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
It's too much of a hazard.
02:10:50
But there was a guy in Hyderabad who posted of the smart trolley and they also have them. They started in Hamburg. It's a Danish company, and they have them in Munich, in Vienna, where they give you the cart for free and there's like an iPad on the front of it. So and it will sync with your information and it will tell you when your gate posts, because a lot of times in Europe you don't know what gate you're going to be at until like 20 minutes before the boarding time. So a lot of people are just hanging out in the main lobby and waiting for their gate to post. So this way you can just cruise around, shop. This is the whole reason why they're giving them away, so you'll shop. The CEO is on. There's a video. The CEO is on record saying our free trolleys are able to lift retail sales thanks to the ability to guide passengers around airside shopping areas.
02:11:42 - Leo Laporte (Host)
They do this in grocery stores too, or at least they tried to. Oh, this is nice, it's free, I like, yeah, and so it tells you where the restroom is. It will tell you to go to the map on it. Oh no.
02:11:54 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
And they'll also send you any, any specials or special. I want this. Oh, this is great, and supposedly they had a trial run in San Diego, but I'm not sure if it's still going on. I have not seen them, but I would love to check them out.
02:12:11 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Very nice.
02:12:13 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I think it's. I think it's brilliant.
02:12:17 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So coming soon to an airport near you? I think so. My yellow plate right Is that now the company's, it s oh that was just the Twitter.
02:12:27
Intelligent track systems Okay, that was just the Twitter handle. Yeah, track systems, cool, very nice. Anyway, that's pretty cool. Johnny Jett, he's our traveling guy who is never again going to download pirated software, who is never again not going to use a wifi and an airplane, who is never again going to hand his passwords out on business cards. And he's no longer. I'm not going to post my ATM card.
02:12:56 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
No longer take pictures of his.
02:12:57 - Leo Laporte (Host)
ATM cards and put them on Twitter. Good, I got you all locked in, johnny. It's such a pleasure. Johnny jetcom is the website Lots of good articles every every day about travel and getting the most out of it. He's also got a great newsletter and you can use his tools to find the best flights, johnny jetcom, where are you going next, john?
02:13:19 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
You know I just booked a lot of travel. It's coming up.
02:13:22 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Oh boy.
02:13:23 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Next week we'll talk about, or next month we'll talk about uh, you know how to get cheap flights to Europe and things like that.
02:13:28 - Leo Laporte (Host)
This is the time, isn't it?
02:13:31 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I mean, you want to shop now.
02:13:32 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, definitely Okay, okay, yeah. We uh, our former salesman Max, just got $199 trip to Australia. Wow, what Each way. So where's your lens at I don't know? He's there right now. Sacred air. I mean, that was a mistake.
02:13:48 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
fair, it had to be.
02:13:49 - Leo Laporte (Host)
No, it was a deal. It was a deal.
02:13:52 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Yeah, you don't find $199 fairs to Australia, unless it's a mistake.
02:13:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Did I get that wrong, Lisa? I thought that was what she said, but maybe I got it wrong.
02:13:59 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
No, no, no no no $199, but he did something dumb you can't take a car from where you are to SFO.
02:14:06 - Leo Laporte (Host)
He went down for uh, for Mardi Gras, which apparently is a big deal in Australia. I don't know. I don't know Maddy Grah, and uh, he's coming back in eight days, and I said eight days. You, you won't be over your jet lag yet. Uh, just stay up all night and uh, don't bother trying to get an Australian time if you're doing it that way.
02:14:27 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Fun. You saw Taylor uh Swift's quote about jet lag, did you see?
02:14:31 - Leo Laporte (Host)
that. No.
02:14:32 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Jet lag is a choice, she said during the Super Bowl. When Kelsey asked her I can't believe you made it she said well, jet lag is a choice. And there was someone else that jet lag is for amateurs. Um, some famous dude long time ago.
02:14:46 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Yeah, I suppose if you're rich and famous, you don't have to go to bed with the other people. Do you get a private jet?
02:14:53 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Well, you probably also get like I don't know injections of. You get a banana bag anytime you want it and whatever else.
02:14:59 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I did the world's longest flight, the very first one, from Singapore to New York, new York. I'd never been that jet lag in my life. It was night, it was 18 and a half hours and it was when the movie Spider-Man came out and literally I was walking across the street in the city and I and I thought I saw Spider-Man crossing with me and I double take and it was just some dude wearing a red cap.
02:15:19 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That's amazing. That's hallucination.
02:15:21 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's a good story.
02:15:23 - Leo Laporte (Host)
So what do you have? A remedy for jet lag, yeah.
02:15:26 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
I mean, let's be Taylor Swift. I couldn't. I could not sleep on the plane. First of all, you want to try and sleep and always want to stay on local time. You know, back then I'd change my watch to whatever it is. You try and eat meals. I usually do it?
02:15:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Do you clench your toes on the carpet? Do you do that one? Do you know about that one? Which one? You clench your toes on the bare feet? Yeah, I've heard that.
02:15:47 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Listen, there's not one thing that works. Everyone's different. But when I go to the East Coast I try to take a very early morning flight, like 6 am, because it's 9 am there, so it forces me to get up at like 4 am, which is 7 am 3 hours. And then, yeah, it's Europe and Australia and Asia, that's where it kill you.
02:16:04 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Now why? What do you think causes jet lag? Because it does sometimes seem like going one way is worse than the other.
02:16:10 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
Well, for me it's usually going there, oh, just wherever. Actually no coming home.
02:16:16 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I've always been told it's flying, that if you fly with the sun it's not as bad as flying against the sun.
02:16:22 - Johnny Jet (Guest)
It's better to fly west than to fly east.
02:16:25 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I've also heard that when you fly, you leave your soul behind because it can't travel that fast.
02:16:33 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
So you're without your soul to catch us up. I gotta get out of here.
02:16:37 - Leo Laporte (Host)
Johnny Jett, have a great day. Safe travels. I gotta get out of here. Bye-bye, bye, johnny Jett I left my soul behind a long time ago. Kids, you can live without it. It's for amateurs. We are done with this show, this program. I'm sorry to all people hanging on who had their hand raised. But we will get to you next week.
02:16:57 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
We will do our best to get to you next week.
02:16:59 - Leo Laporte (Host)
That time that channel. We do the show every Sunday from 11 am to 2 pm Pacific time, but as you can see, it's really 11, 11 am to 1.30 pm, but it's too hard for me to do the math, so I say 11 am to 2 pm, 2 to 3 pm Eastern time and 1900 UTC. We are streaming now for all of the shows as we do them on YouTube, youtubecom but we only start the stream when the show starts and we end the stream when the show ends. There's no interstitial content that we save for the club twit members. If you're not a member, can I please beg of you Join the club.
02:17:38
We really appreciate, we really value our club members because they value us. It's a way of helping us stay on the air. You do get benefits. All of our shows add free plus video shows we don't put out in public. That's also the twit plus bonus content stuff before and after shows and fun things we do in the club only like that escape box that we were doing there. You also get and I think this is one of the best benefits access to the club twit discord a wonderful place to tack with other club twit members, not just about the shows but about all the great things we talk about.
02:18:13
As geeks, you know everything from anime to movies to my new UHD DVD player. But your $7 does not go to that. It goes to people like Micah and Johnny and everybody who works on our network Jammer B, our studio guy, john Ashley, our producer. It keeps us on the air because advertising dollars are dwindling for not just for us, for everybody in this medium. So we have to turn to you. But I really appreciate it and I think we've kept it low enough and given you enough value that it really is worth it. If you are one of the almost a million people who watch every month only 11,000 members so far that means there's quite a few of you who are not yet members. Please, twittv, slash club twit. I thank you so much for your support. We will be back next week. We will be.
02:19:04 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You know what we could do. What could we do we could for the people who are hanging around with you and they didn't get their question answered. This is just a thought. We have a secret phrase we come up with every week that gets edited out of the final one that goes out, and then if that person calls during the week 888-724-2884, or sends us video, audio or an email with that, secret phrase they get to bump up, since they had to wait the whole time.
02:19:29
Just a thought, just a thought for the future. But yeah, you can call during the week 888-724-2884 to leave your voicemail. As we mentioned, you can get in touch with us the other ways as well. Atg twittv is one way to talk to us in multiple formats.
02:19:45 - Leo Laporte (Host)
The secret phrase this week is jet lag is for amateurs. Jet lag is for amateurs. All right, you know who you are. Use that secret phrase. That's an interesting thought, a concept. Yeah, I like it that there's Mike Sarge. He'll be back with Tech News Weekly every Thursday. He does iOS today. Every Tuesday with Rosemary Orchard. You can listen or watch in the club. He also, of course, is a regular. He's the guy on this show. If you would like to call anytime during the week, you can leave us a voicemail at 888-724-ATTG. You can also email ATG or ATTG either one at twittv and send us your email. If you want to attach a video or audio question to that, please go right ahead.
02:20:38 - John Ashley (Other)
Hank. I want to make one note for those sending emails. John Ashley, Try not to send attachments of screenshots because I can't really easily. Well, I could print them out, but try not to attach too many screenshots. I had one or two emails I had tried to attach like five, six attached screenshots.
02:20:55 - Leo Laporte (Host)
You can also. We can figure out a way that you can just send me a link and I can look at it on the screen or something. Well, screen touch. If you really think it's going to help us solve the problem, that would be okay, yeah, the context. Sometimes we need that context. Let's see that's the phone number, that's the email, that's the voicemail, anything else, that's when we're on the air.
02:21:15 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It's funny because I just said all of that.
02:21:18 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I wasn't listening. I was thinking of the secret phrase.
02:21:22 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
That's why I asked in the chat can you tell that both of us have ADHD?
02:21:26 - Leo Laporte (Host)
My brain was completely focused on the secret phrase.
02:21:29 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Because I was saying those things. I was worried that you had just said them to. Those are all the ways you get in touch with us. Consider becoming a member.
02:21:38 - Leo Laporte (Host)
I'm sorry, I do pay attention to you.
02:21:40 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
No, and I do too, but sometimes we have other things that we're trying to focus on. We both have had that happen. I'm not trying to call you out specifically.
02:21:48 - Leo Laporte (Host)
We repeat each other because we know it's hard to remember this information, we want to give it to you. Many, many pork chops, what? No Squirrel? Yeah, we're a little, a little. I'm Leo Laporte. I'm Micah Sarge. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next time. Meanwhile, have a great geek week. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
